Sidney Powell on Pedodent Biden - "demented pervert" & "can't tie his own shoelaces"

[Into the Night]

Not so. I said her lawyer made that statement;

Lie.

however, I doubt if he did so without her permission.

Irrelevant.

She is willing to say anything to avoid a losing the defamation suit.

Lie.

She would not need to use that defense if there was any truth to her original statements.

You do not get to decide anyone's 'need' to say anything.

Since there is no evidence of election fraud

Yes there is. Lots of it. It's still available to be examined as well.

she can't use the defense that she was telling the truth.

Sure she can.

She never presented any evidence of fraud even in her court cases.

What court cases?

No Kracken.

Assumption of victory fallacy.

Attempted proof by ignorance. Attempted proof by contextomy.

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

Not so. I said her lawyer made that statement; however, I doubt if he did so without her permission. She is willing to say anything to avoid a losing the defamation suit.

HAHAHA. She's not going to lose the defamation suit. If free speech means anything it means people can call an election rigged.

 

[Flash]

HAHAHA. She's not going to lose the defamation suit. If free speech means anything it means people can call an election rigged.

Free speech does not include wild unfounded charges against an American business which defamed their reputation. It is the same as libel--a lie that results in harm against a company.

The fact that many Americans believed the lies about Dominion proves the harm those claims caused. They were all easily disproven. That is why Fox and Newsmax ran stories saying their stories about Dominion were not true.

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

Free speech does not include wild unfounded charges against an American business which defamed their reputation.

Unfounded charges???? HAHAHA. No one thinks biden won honestly. He's a pedophile and has dementia and everyone knows it.

 

[Flash]

Lie.

Not a lie. Here is my post: "Her lawyers made that claim."

Clearly I did not say she made the statement. So you lie. It is part of your pattern to make erroneous claims about statements made by posters.

 

[Flash]

Unfounded charges???? HAHAHA. No one thinks biden won honestly. He's a pedophile and has dementia and everyone knows it.

A majority of the country knows Biden won honestly. Only those who believe anything Trump tells them believe the fraud charges.

But the lawsuit is about claims Powell made about Dominion which they easily proved were lies. Now, she is claiming nobody took her comments seriously. If her statements were based on fact that would be a defense in her case; instead, she pretends she was not serious.

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

A majority of the country knows Biden won honestly.

HAHAHA What a lie that is. Biden is a proven child molester w dementia and everyone has know it for years. I doubt he got even 50 million votes. THINK

 

[Into the Night]

Free speech does not include wild unfounded charges against an American business which defamed their reputation.

Actually, it does. I can speak out against Microsoft for the lousy products they produce, for example.

It is the same as libel--a lie that results in harm against a company.

You have to show it is a lie. You have to show it actually caused damages. What damages were done to Dominion?

The fact that many Americans believed the lies about Dominion proves the harm those claims caused.

What is the harm? Specify the harm. Show that her opinion is an intentional lie.

They were all easily disproven.

Nope. Dominion software does allow for modification and weighting of votes. It is also easily hacked by anyone with access to the machine (like an election worker). There have both been demonstrated.

That is why Fox and Newsmax ran stories saying their stories about Dominion were not true.

False authority fallacies. News organizations are not evidence or a proof.

 

[Into the Night]

Not a lie. Here is my post: "Her lawyers made that claim."

Therefore you lied.

Clearly I did not say she made the statement.

Yes you did. Lie.

So you lie.

Inversion fallacy.

It is part of your pattern to make erroneous claims about statements made by posters.

Inversion fallacy.

 

[Flash]

HAHAHA What a lie that is. Biden is a proven child molester w dementia and everyone has know it for years. I doubt he got even 50 million votes. THINK

"Republican trust in elections ticks down again: 33 percent of GOP voters say they trust U.S. elections, down from 38 percent last week. Confidence that the 2020 election was free and fair hits a high point: 65 percent of voters say the election was free and fair, including 92 percent of Democrats and 32 percent of Republicans."

 

[Flash]

Actually, it does. I can speak out against Microsoft for the lousy products they produce, for example.

You have to show it is a lie. You have to show it actually caused damages. What damages were done to Dominion?

What is the harm? Specify the harm. Show that her opinion is an intentional lie.

That is what the defamation suit is about. It will attempt to show damages and false statements.

If Powell had any confidence in her lies she would not be claiming they were not serious. If Newsmax and Fox had any confidence in their statements they would not have retracted their claims on-air.

 

[Into the Night]

That is what the defamation suit is about. It will attempt to show damages and false statements.

Not good enough. You have to show the lies were intentional to cause harm.

If Powell had any confidence in her lies she would not be claiming they were not serious. If Newsmax and Fox had any confidence in their statements they would not have retracted their claims on-air.

Assumption fallacy. How do you know they are lies?
I don't give a shit about Newmax and Fox. Irrelevant strawman.

 

[Flash]

Not good enough. You have to show the lies were intentional to cause harm.

Dominion is not a public figure. They do not have to prove actual malice.

Powell was clearly trying to harm the reputation of Dominion--that was the only purpose for her statements. The Kraken was going to cause harm.

 

[Into the Night]

Dominion is not a public figure.

It is a public company selling to government (for public use). It is a 'public figure' in the eyes of the law.

They do not have to prove actual malice.

Yes you do, public figure or no.

Powell was clearly trying to harm the reputation of Dominion--that was the only purpose for her statements.

Evidence?

The Kraken was going to cause harm.

Evidence it was intentional and malicious?

 

[Old Trapper]

Have you ever noticed how the mind of the low IQ rightie works? Anytime they are caught in a lie, as trump was on a daily basis, they have to find some way to deflect from the truth. They NEVER, and I mean NEVER, take responsibility for anything. When Powell first came out with her lies they were all for it, and even promoted the lies. Now they make asinine claims like you have to show she intentionally lied. The right wingers in this forum, and every forum I go to, were hot to trot when she told the lie as an excuse for trumps lies that the election was stolen from him. Now that she has admitted that no sane person would have believed her lies they are like slugs looking for a rock to crawl under. The same tactic is what they use to "justify" their asinine attitude in the pandemic. "What me? I never said not to wear masks." trump gets caught in another lie, hasten to blame Bidens family for something, anything. They never take responsibility for anything.

 

[Flash]

Yes you do, public figure or no.

Not true. In a libel suit an ordinary citizen just has the show the information was false and it damaged them.

A public figure must show actual malice. A public company doing business with the government does not make it a public figure.

However, this is a defamation suit and the standards are a little different.

 

[Flash]

Assumption fallacy. How do you know they are lies?\

Her defense is based on the fact that her lies were just political rhetoric and she was not serious.

If she had any evidence to support her lies she would be using those in her defense and she would have presented them in her court cases.

 

[Walt]

Sidney Powell..."can't tie his own shoelaces"

Powell admitted to lying for political causes, so whatever.

The reality is trump has not tied his own shoes in decades, which is not that bad when you think of how fat he is. he has not been able to tie his own tie... Which is very weird for a man like that. he wears adult diapers. he has not read a book in over half a century. I could go on.

 

[Walt]

Biden is undoubtedly the most unqualified president in history.

Most people disagree with you. Biden has more experience than almost any other President in history. The most unqualified President would be trump.

 

[Walt]

Dominion is not a public figure. They do not have to prove actual malice.

Powell was clearly trying to harm the reputation of Dominion--that was the only purpose for her statements. The Kraken was going to cause harm.

No sane person would argue that Powell was not trying to do damage to Dominion. And she did damage to them. Now the question what is the maximum amount of damage can we reasonably say she has done to them in the future, and then how is she going to pay them that.