CNN’s Gupta: CCP Virus escaped from Wuhan lab

how about Europe? why do you cherry pick SK.
look at the geography of SK and then Europe or the USA..get it??

all these vaccines are available in the USA but Europe ( except the UK) has shortages. why is that?

Cherry pick SK? That wasn't my intention. I used SK as an examples because they had the best response to the virus from China.

What does geography have to do with leaders being responsible for the response to the virus from China?
 
Hello Darth,



That's not science, and there is a reason you're ignoring the science: Because it doesn't say what you want to believe.

I've made several posts here referencing the science and you've chosen not to respond to any of them.

What you're not saying is speaking louder than what you actually do say.

WHO report: COVID likely 1st jumped into humans from animals

"GENEVA (AP) — A joint World Health Organization-China study on the origins of COVID-19 says that transmission of the virus from bats to humans through another animal is the most likely scenario and that a lab leak is “extremely unlikely,” according to a draft copy obtained by The Associated Press."

I didn’t say it was science. Occam’s is a principle of simple logic.

The WHO doesn’t ‘utter science’ just because they make an assertion.

And do you think it’s just ‘an odd coincidence’ that COVID19 erupted in the same vicinity as one of the few places on the planet where they were doing gain of function experiments on Covid viruses?
 
LOL, you citing Occam's razor is laughable. You believe in every conspiracy theory out there. No, Occam's razor does not suggest this originated in a lab, since there are hundreds of instances of viruses jumping form humans to animals, many of them originating in wet markets. So that would be the most obvious and simplest explanation. You didn't even get that right.

Bullshit.

The virology lab in Wuhan was doing gain of function experiments on *Covid viruses*. In 2018 our own diplomats warned us there was risk of a leak from lab in 2018. And in 2019, the COVID19 pandemic began in Wuhan—-just like our own diplomats warned it might.

Are they any more damned obvious things you refuse to see?
 
Hello Darth,

I didn’t say it was science. Occam’s is a principle of simple logic.

The WHO doesn’t ‘utter science’ just because they make an assertion.

And do you think it’s just ‘an odd coincidence’ that COVID19 erupted in the same vicinity as one of the few places on the planet where they were doing gain of function experiments on Covid viruses?

That is a misapplication of Occam.

The simplest answer is that this virus evolved like all others have. In the animal world.

It would be unprecedented if it was man-made, got loose, and became a worldwide pandemic. That has never happened before.
 
Cherry pick SK? That wasn't my intention. I used SK as an examples because they had the best response to the virus from China.

What does geography have to do with leaders being responsible for the response to the virus from China?
JFK
it's a peninsula with NK in between China and Sk -no one travels from or to NK - so SK is isolated from China
 
The U.S. government does not know exactly where, when, or how the COVID-19 virus—known as SARS-CoV-2—was transmitted initially to humans.
Because trump decimated the broad Obama era program that had scientists in China, and other regions.
 
Sanjay Gupta did not call the virus by the derogatory hurtful name use in the OP title. Irresponsible hate speech is causing increased violence and getting innocent old people sucker-punched by right wing cowards.

These are "right-wing cowards"?

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Asian woman brutally beaten in suspected hate crime


A racist attacker brutally beat an Asian woman who was walking to her church in Midtown on Monday morning — as a security guard in a nearby building watched and did nothing to help, according to police and footage of the incident.

The unidentified suspect spewed anti-Asian statements as he punched and kicked the 65-year-old woman on West 43rd Street near Ninth Avenue at about 11:40 a.m., according to cops.

“F–k you, you don’t belong here,” the brute yelled at the woman, according to sources.

Video footage of the assault provided by police shows the suspect kicking the victim to the ground — then stomping her in the head several times as she was down on the *sidewalk.

Several men from a nearby residential building witnessed the crime, the footage shows, but did not try to help the woman.

One of the men, who was undoing packages, watched the entire incident unfold, the footage shows. Two other witnesses — who appear to be building security — walked over to the door as the attack ended, but did not chase after the suspect.

In fact, one of those men appears to shut the building door as the attacker takes off and the victim lies helplessly, according to the video.

The suspect was still being sought early Tuesday morning.

A doorman at the building where the surveillance video was recorded said on Monday night that he was unaware that the attack had taken place.

The victim, who suffered a fractured pelvis, was taken to NYU Langone Hospital, where she was listed in stable condition, authorities said.

The NYPD’s Hate Crime Task Force is investigating, police said.


https://nypost.com/2021/03/29/asian-woman-seriously-injured-in-suspected-midtown-hate-crime/


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THE RACIST, MISOGYNIST ATTACKER


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THE INNOCENT ASIAN FEMALE VICTIM​


Hate crime charges have been filed against a King County man for alleged violent, anti-Asian behavior, the King County Prosecuting Attorney’s Office said.

Christopher Allen Hamner, 51, was arrested Thursday for allegedly attacking and threatening multiple victims because of their perceived race, court documents show.

Seattle Police say on March 16, Hamner threatened a Pamela Cole, who is Asian American, and her two children while they were stopped in their car at a red light at Martin Luther King Jr. Way South and South Graham Street.

Cole says they were leaving a school event and were at a red light when Hamner made eye contact with her, jumped out of his car and started yelling at her ‘F--- you, you Asian b----. F--- you!'

She says she was in shock and didn't know what to do but then started to worry because she didn't know if he had any weapons on him.

"As a parent, I thought I couldn't protect my kids and that was the worst thing," Cole said.

A few days before the attack, Cole attended a rally at Hing Hay Park against Asian hate and said she knew she couldn't be silent about her attack.

The prosecutor’s office says a few days later, Hamner allegedly targeted two other victims because of their perceived race. According to court documents, he followed the two victims in their car, cut them off in traffic and then got out of his vehicle and charged at them while yelling obscenities.


https://komonews.com/news/local/hate-crime-charges-filed-against-man-for-alleged-violent-anti-asian-behavior

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Police have arrested a man in connection with two unprovoked assaults that left two Asian men with serious injuries.

In both cases, the suspect used mass transit to flee the scene of his crimes.

San Francisco police arrested Jorge Devis-Milton, 32, on suspicion of committing multiple violations in connection with two assaults in the city Monday afternoon, including the following: assault with a deadly weapon, two counts of aggravated assault, two counts of battery causing injury and aggravated mayhem.

At about 1:30 p.m. Monday in the Mission District, Devis-Milton cut the face of a 64-year-old Asian man and knocked him to the ground, police said, before he fled into the nearby BART station at 16th Street and Mission Street.

A bystander provided first aid to the victim, who was transported to a local hospital with life-threatening injuries.

Police said that about 30 minutes later Devis-Milton attacked another person — a 59-year-old Asian man from Vallejo — who was walking in the 600 block of Market Street.

A witness told police that the suspect ran up to the victim and punched him in the head multiple times, causing him to fall to the ground where he remained motionless. The suspect fled the scene and got on a bus.

Less than 24 hours later, police recognized Devis-Milton at 16th Street and Mission Street and took him into custody.


https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/san-francisco-police-make-arrest-in-unprovoked-attacks-on-2-men/

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Man arrested in attack on elderly Asian American woman who blacked out


A man has been arrested in connection with a brutal attack on an elderly Asian American woman in White Plains, New York, police said Friday.

Nancy Toh, 83, was spit on and punched near the Westchester shopping center on Tuesday, police said. She hit the ground hard enough that she "blacked out momentarily," White Plains police Capt. James Spencer said in a statement.

Toh's face and hip were injured, and she possibly suffered a concussion, he said.

She reported the attack on Wednesday, Spencer said, adding that police focused on Glenmore Nembhard, as a suspect and found him in the area Thursday.

He was arrested and charged by the Westchester County Office of the District Attorney with felony assault in the second degree with intent to cause physical injury to a person who is 65 years of age or older, said spokesman Dan Weiller, by email.

The Legal Aid Society of Westchester County, which handles public defenders for the region, did not immediately respond to a request for comment. According to jail records, Nembhard's next court date is Wednesday.

District Attorney Miriam E. Rocah said in a statement Friday that the possibility a hate crime occurred was still under investigation.




https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-arrested-attack-elderly-asian-american-woman-who-blacked-out-n1261019

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The media loves to churn out, "What we don't talk about when we talk about X" pieces. Those pieces are invariably talking about the things that the media talks about non-stop. Meanwhile, many of the things that it does talk about have notable omissions.

Anti-Asian hate crimes are constantly talked about, but not who's committing them.

Oakland’s Chinatown has suffered over 20 attacks against the elderly and women in two weeks.

The wave of attacks against Asian people in Oakland, like the previous attacks in New York, are being carried out by black men with criminal records, not by "white supremacists".

Chinatown community members have been accused of “anti-blackness” for talking about the violence they’re facing in a city and state that no longer believe in fighting crime.

The San Francisco Gate has run two op-eds, from both angles, while politicians fidgeted nervously about a no-win scenario. It's easier just to condemn racism without addressing the perpetrators in question.

And that's a rerun of the wave of antisemitic attacks in Brooklyn which were met the same way.

Meanwhile, the woke contingent keeps talking about the "trope" of black-Asian Conflict.

In this hilarious Brookings piece, two wokers try to blame Christian nationalism.

"Because some of the video-taped perpetrators appear to have been black, some observers immediately reduced anti-Asian violence to Black-Asian conflict. A recent poll finds that in fact, Christian nationalism is the strongest predictor of xenophobic views of COVID-19, and the effect of Christian nationalism is greater among white respondents, compared to black respondents. "

Except that the perpetrators of the attacks are still black. But look, we have a poll.

Incidents like these lead to a lot of "conversations" about prejudice while attributing it to Americans in general. The specifics of the incident are quickly transmuted into a national sin even when the perpetrators are black or Latino.

And they often are.

After sifting through thousands of hate crimes from across the country committed by thousands of criminals, the final breakdown is that of 6,406 known offenders, only 52% of the perpetrators were white, and around 24% were black.

The FBI measures Latinos as an ethnicity, not a race, so the white racial category of offenders also includes Latinos.

Asians couldn't even break the 1% barrier.

America's demographic distribution comes out to about 60% white, 12% black, 18% Hispanic, and 5% Asian leaving us with the inescapable reality that Asians are not doing their part.

Admitting the existence of black racism was tough before, but now in the era of 'white privilege' and cancel culture, it's impossible. It can't be dealt with, only dismissed as a trope.


https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2021/03/when-minorities-commit-hate-crimes-daniel-greenfield/
 
even the head of the WTO says their report lacks an ability to look at the lab data

that and we already know China does a shitty job of controlling their labs.
Virus have escaped the Beijing lab 2 times before (that we know of)

moronic Dems would rather blame Trump then the CCP

You scored on two points:

The first is only China can settle this because they control access to the data that would rule out the lab. So there is no sciencey conclusion—it’s just opinions, until they have access to the lab data and since the CCP controls it—that ain’t happening.

The second is kind of captain obvious lol. Democrats, anti Trumpers, media etc, are all invested in the Trump virus hoax. IOW, the scientifically bankrupt idea that Trump is personally responsible for mass death and ad nauseum.

So they couldn’t be less curious about any of it—and it shows. In fact, *they don’t want to know* if the virus is man made. Ignorance works better for them.
 
Hello Darth,



That is a misapplication of Occam.

The simplest answer is that this virus evolved like all others have. In the animal world.

It would be unprecedented if it was man-made, got loose, and became a worldwide pandemic. That has never happened before.

So you think it was just an odd coincidence that COVID19 began in proximity to a virology lab that was doing gain of function experiments on Covid viruses.

You have great faith in coincidences.

Given the proximity, the most parsimonious explanation is the virus escaped from the lab. That it’s never happened before only means one has never escaped. The technology exists to manipulate the viral genome [or any other genome] so it’s only a question of whether or not it escaped.

It’s still entirely plausible but [less parsimonious] to bring intent into it but by no means can that be ruled out.

If you put that past the CCP you don’t understand communists or communism.
 
So you think it was just an odd coincidence that COVID19 began in proximity to a virology lab that was doing gain of function experiments on Covid viruses.

You have great faith in coincidences.

Given the proximity, the most parsimonious explanation is the virus escaped from the lab. That it’s never happened before only means one has never escaped. The technology exists to manipulate the viral genome [or any other genome] so it’s only a question of whether or not it escaped.

It’s still entirely plausible but [less parsimonious] to bring intent into it but by no means can that be ruled out.

If you put that past the CCP you don’t understand communists or communism.

You realize that Sars virus isn't new?
 
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