Would you rather live in a Socialist country or an Authoritarian country?

AProudLefty said:
There have been multiple socialist communities in the USA. Some are met with success. Two are still active today.
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On a tribal/village level, it can work. As states, or even cities, not so much. Human nature takes over and ruins it all.

The only way it can work on a large scale, IMO, is to have unlimited energy and resources. It's the competition for sources that is the weak point of any society. Unless a method can be enacted to prevent human corruption, it won't work in the long run.

Unlimited energy and resources won't change human nature but it would prevent human nature from harming others.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
They don't have to be run by an autocrat to be autocratic. Government bureaucracies and laws can do the job quite nicely.

UK_Knife_Laws_Suck.jpg

In the UK table knives are controlled. You have to be 18 to buy one and have to fill out paperwork.


https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/...biological-daughter-rsquo-s-gender-transition

You do know in most of those countries you have to have a government license to own a television don't you?


https://fee.org/articles/denmarks-ghetto-laws-show-how-the-welfare-state-breeds-conflict/

All of those listed countries are authoritarian to a good degree. The US is headed that way as the Welfare state and socialized government expands.
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here ya go stupid

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/quality-of-life-rankings
 
AProudLefty said:
I thought I would mention it since socialism doesn't necessarily mean authoritarianism. Native Americans have been living in somewhat socialist communities for centuries.

Here's a list of "utopian communities".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_utopian_communities
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On the state or city level, it does. Power corrupts and unlimited power, such as a socialist state, corrupts absolutely.

This is why centralized power, the power to act quickly, ultimately falls into corruption and authoritarianism. Power corrupts.

The only way to prevent it is to not give them the power....and that negates the entire idea of a centralized federal power.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
On a tribal/village level, it can work. As states, or even cities, not so much. Human nature takes over and ruins it all.

The only way it can work on a large scale, IMO, is to have unlimited energy and resources. It's the competition for sources that is the weak point of any society. Unless a method can be enacted to prevent human corruption, it won't work in the long run.

Unlimited energy and resources won't change human nature but it would prevent human nature from harming others.
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That would work theoretically in a Star Trek universe.
 
I take it OP has no marketable skills and wants the government/workers to provide everything he/she needs.

AKA: Total fucking drain on society.

Wants to be provided for, yet provides nothing.
 
AProudLefty said:
That would work theoretically in a Star Trek universe.
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I think it would work in reality too. With unlimited energy and resources, human beings would be free to leave the planet.

The "Groundhogs" would stay on good ol' planet Earth, playing their guitars, smoking pot and not have a care in the world. The "Rednecks" would be spreading out. It's what human beings do best.
 
Joe Capitalist said:
so·cial·ism | ˈsōSHəˌlizəm |
noun
a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
• policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.
The term “socialism” has been used to describe positions as far apart as anarchism, Soviet state communism, and social democracy. The socialist parties that have arisen in most European countries from the late 19th century have generally tended toward social democracy.

au·thor·i·tar·i·an·ism | ôˌTHäriˈterēənizəm |
noun
the enforcement or advocacy of strict obedience to authority at the expense of personal freedom.
• lack of concern for the wishes or opinions of others.
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I can't think of any socialist nations today that aren't authoritarian or totalitarian.
 
reagansghost said:
how many of these countries are fun by socialist despots?

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/quality-of-life-rankings

..that was easy
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Do you think the quality of life has anything to do with them existing in the upper latitudes with the colder climate?

I read an article about evolutionary behavior and it theorized that people in colder climates had to share resources to survive because of their scarcity. The people had to work together and survive through cooperation or perish.
In tropical climates, food and resources were plentiful so there was less need for cooperation to survive like in cold climates.

More community cooperation and a sharing and caring Creed would tend to yield a better quality of life.
 
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