KXL dead!

LV426 said:
Because it removes the oversupply:

“Existing markets for Canadian heavy crude, principally PADD II [U.S. Midwest], are currently oversupplied, resulting in price discounting for Canadian heavy crude oil. Access to the USGC [U.S. Gulf Coast] via the Keystone XL Pipeline is expected to strengthen Canadian crude oil pricing in [the Midwest] by removing this oversupply. This is expected to increase the price of heavy crude to the equivalent cost of imported crude. The resultant increase in the price of heavy crude is estimated to provide an increase in annual revenue to the Canadian producing industry in 2013 of US $2 billion to US $3.9 billion.”

That's from TransCanada's permit application...the above is TransCanada telling you precisely how energy costs for the US will rise.
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Yes. Because there is a glut in the Mid West right now where the pipeline ends. Locals enjoy low petro prices because of the glut.
 
Truth Detector said:
That is a BULLSHIT claim. If that were true, the lies spouted by you leftist retards regarding the Alaska pipeline would have shut it down decades ago. If a railcar derails, the danage could be a massive explosion, fires and significant threat to humans. It's also a easily obtaind FACT that pipeline transpport is far more economical than truck or rail. Not to mention carbon nuetral versus the same.
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Right, so then why do you want to mess with something that ain't broke?

We already get a glut of Tar Sands sludge from Alberta that is discounted.

Why would you want to change that? Because you're a fucking idiot.
 
Truth Detector said:
The only one moving goal posts and flailing are you, you dumb ignorant, dishonest cunt
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You have switched the focus of your argument three times on this thread, while mine has stayed consistent.

You have repeatedly copy-and-pasted the same GIF over and over.

You shout in all caps.

You need a time out.
 
Althea said:
If Canada wants to peddle that sludge elsewhere, they should build the pipeline to the Pacific and let China ship it home.
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Thing is, they tried to do this and the people of Canada simply wouldn't let them.

So they resorted to the soft heads in America, who are willfully blind to the toll KXL would extract, that TransCanada made explicitly clear.
 
ExpressLane said:
That is because Canada is producing more crude than they can ship thus they have an over supply. They will ship more thus raising their revenues from 2 to 3.9 billion. The resultant increase in oil to Texas will decrease prices in the US. It will remove the oil glut in Canada and increase crude prices in CANADA.
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Incorrect. All of the 2nd rate product that comes from the sludge is sold on the open market.

Just as our fracking crude is. There is no such thing as American petroleum being sold only in this nation.
 
ExpressLane said:
That is because Canada is producing more crude than they can ship thus they have an over supply. They will ship more thus raising their revenues from 2 to 3.9 billion. The resultant increase in oil to Texas will decrease prices in the US. It will remove the oil glut in Canada and increase crude prices in CANADA.
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Why don't they just refine it themselves?
 
Althea said:
The glaring irony is that Canada doesn't want to refine that crap in country. I wonder why not?
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Conservatives don't know anything about this subject, as we see on this thread.

They think that KXL would magically increase the supply of oil, when all it does is divert the already existing supply of oil to the Gulf from the Midwest.

It's a shell game TransCanada was trying to play...moving the oil from one region to another, bypassing that first region for a larger market & more demand.

I thought it was hilarious when Truth Detector tried to argue that a larger market means a larger supply.

Sure...a larger supply of competitors who will all try to out-bid one another.
 
LV426 said:
No it doesn't you fucking clown!

A larger market means there's MORE DEMAND, because there's MORE BUYERS.
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So if I just increase supply; demand will go up as well as prices. You're too much of an uneducated moropn to comprehend how stupid you look. :palm:

LV426 said:
A larger market does not equate to more demand you dumb, ignorant, lying cunt.
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That is what you are saying you mentally unstable asshole. :palm:

LV426 said:
You don't know a single goddamned thing about economics...it's hilarious watching you make it all up as you go!
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I R O N Y!!! I have a degree in Finance and accounting from Cal State you fuckTard. Graduated with high honors. You? I doubt you finished grade school based on the stupidity you erupt with constantly. No kill yourself. No one will care. No one will even notice.
 
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