And now we have Tuesday’s mass shooting,

[Into the Night]

because it never needed one..........the definition of a well regulated militia at the time of ratification was accepted as the people of each state knowing how to shoot and fight as a group, if necessary.

Absolutely. A militia is an army formed by a State to protect itself. That army is made up of the citizens of that State.

 

[Mr.Badguy]

Absolutely. A militia is an army formed by a State to protect itself. That army is made up of the citizens of that State.

And the part of the 2A that says "well regulated" means...?

 

[Into the Night]

Here we go with fallacy bullshit again

Stop making fallacies. I won't call you on them.

Every time “nightingale” is caught short in one of his posts he immediately goes to his Google list of fallacies and imports one he himself doesn’t understand

I don't use Google. A fallacy is an error in logic, similar to an arithmetic error is an error in mathematics. Denial of logic.

Why? If owning a gun is an inherent right and prohibiting such interferes with one’s “freedom,” why wouldn’t murder fall under the same considerations, where in the natural world does it say murder isn’t equally a right

False equivalence fallacy. Murder isn't an inherent right.

 

[Into the Night]

What restrictions would have prevented it?

None, obviously. The shooting took place in a 'gun free' zone.

 

[Into the Night]

Yes. But you don't have a right to own a car. That was the statement you made. You have aright to what you can buy that's not the same as saying you have a right to own a car.

You have the right to own a car. You have the right to own property.
Semantics fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

I am guessing that early in life, Hitler encountered the Jewish version of you, thus explaining his future actions.

Incoherent. Random wandering. No argument presented.

 

[Into the Night]

Again not what I said. Man you people are something. You can own what you like. Can you drive your property (car) on property that is not yours?

Certainly, with the property owner's permission.

 

[Into the Night]

Exactly and if a gun is nothing more than a tool, much like a car, then nobody would have a right to own a gun. I think owning a gun is a right, but should be expected to be well regulated.

Unconstitutional.

 

[Into the Night]

Can you carry your gun onto property that isn't yours?

Yes. With the owner's permission.

 

[Yakuda]

You have the right to own a car. You have the right to own property.
Semantics fallacy.

You have a right to own property not a car. It's just accurate. And just because you can own a car doesn't mean you have a right to drive it wherever you please.

 

[Into the Night]

Yes but with restrictions. If someone doesn't expressly say I cannot then I can as I am licensed to carry a concealed weapon.

Not good enough. The owner of that properly can tell you to take your gun off the property, even if it is concealed.

 

[Yakuda]

Certainly, with the property owner's permission.

So you can't drive your care wherever you please. Rights have restrictions whether we like it or not.

 

[Yakuda]

Not good enough. The owner of that properly can tell you to take your gun off the property, even if it is concealed.

Yes that's right. If they know I have it.

 

[Yakuda]

Yes. With the owner's permission.

Thats a restriction of your right. Look let's be sensible there are inherent restrictions on rights. Govt restrictions are a different matter.

 

[Old Trapper]

Prove it's a lie.

I believe it's 3 in the same place. Do should my 5 round .38 special revolver be outlawed since I could kill 5 people in one place?

Easily done if you have an IQ over your shoe size. Name a time in American history when guns were confiscated.

Next part of your comment makes no sense.

 

[Into the Night]

Really, who said that? And if such is the case, why would it be needed today when each State today has an official “well regulated militia?”

Are you trying to say the Constitution has canceled itself due to age?

 

[Into the Night]

That one is funny, “nightingale” now claims if you only compare the US against other developed nations you are cherry-picking, that any discussion regarding guns in America should compare us with conditions in nations as Afghanistan or Nigeria, otherwise, it is “stone fallacy”

Lie. Cherry picking fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Again what's a little more infringement to you if you're already tolerating the infringement that exists now? If regulating guns means your rights are being infringed why aren't you fighting back already?

People are.

 

[Into the Night]

And the part of the 2A that says "well regulated" means...?

To make regular...in other words, an organized militia.

 

[Yakuda]

Easily done if you have an IQ over your shoe size. Name a time in American history when guns were confiscated.

Next part of your comment makes no sense.

I'll type slowly for you then. Leftist pig fuckers want to stop mass shootings. A mass shooting is defined by the FBI as killing 4 people in one location. If I can conceivably kill 5 people in one place with my 5 shit .38 special revolver, should I be allowed to possess it?