Trump Org, CFO indicted by New York grand jury: reports

PoliTalker said:
Hello Dutch Uncle,



It only stands to reason that if Trump hates paying taxes to the government so much that he thinks getting out of it 'makes him smart' and he is found guilty of state tax evasion, that he would also be guilty of federal tax evasion.

As far as the state tax evasion goes, it is now glaringly apparent why he moved out of New York State.
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It hasn't gotten back to trump personally yet, but the issue is conspiracy to commit tax fraud among other fraud. trumpco aided Weisselberg in state/city/fed tax evasion.

Weisselberg owes taxes, and trumpco was complicit. We're going to find the trump spawn is also involved in tax avoidance.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
It wouldn't surprise me that the deeper investigators look into TrumpCo, the more shit they are going to find. Is there a statute of limitations on financial crimes?

Seems to me that, even if there was, if it's part of an ongoing conspiracy to commit crime, that it all comes into play.
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If memory serves, even though you 'supposedly' cannot indict a criminal POTUS, statute of limitations is suspended for the time said criminal is in office. The fraud continues to this day.

The insurance/banking fraud may or may not still be within SOL.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Dutch Uncle,



It makes me proud to be an American when justice is served. Seeing the authorities making Trump answer for his actions gives me a good feeling about the future of the country and the world.
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Don't celebrate. This rogue Supreme Court just did away with the entire voting rights act.
 
Nordberg said:
Weusselberg is facing 15 charges and the rest of his life in jail. He is not scoffing at the charges. There will be a lot more charges too. Is there anyone who does not think Trump plays by his own rules? The rights do not care if the president is a crook.
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Peruse the Leona Helmsley trial. She openly bragged about not paying taxes. 'Only little people pay taxes'.

It seems to be rampant with NY developers.
 
Micawber said:
For months -- years, even -- legal observers have been waiting for the Manhattan District Attorney's Office to conclude its investigation of Donald J. Trump and his family business with the filing of criminal charges. Finally, the wait is over. But, in part because the indictment does not charge the former President as an individual and partly because many segments of the investigation apparently continue, these charges may raise as many questions as they answer.
: U.S. President Donald Trump listens during a meeting with members of the National Association of Police Organizations Leadership in the Cabinet Room of the White House July 31, 2020 in Washington, DC. (Photo by Anna Moneymaker-Pool/Getty Images)Thursday's charges were brought against Allen Weisselberg, the longtime chief financial officer of the Trump Organization, and against certain corporate components of the company itself, based on what is described as a 15-year scheme to evade taxes on executive and employee compensation. According to the indictment, the Trump Organization provided part of its compensation in the form of rent-free apartments, car leases, cash bonuses and private school tuition, but failed to properly account for this income, and did not pay required federal, state and local taxes on it. Weisselberg, a recipient of these benefits, allegedly also failed to pay personal taxes on this income, as part of the conspiracy.

Weisselberg and the Trump Organization pleaded not guilty to the charges. The Trump Organization further called the prosecution a political ploy, saying Weisselberg was being used as a "pawn in a scorched-earth attempt to harm the former president."
But now that this long-awaited indictment has been unsealed, what does it tell us about these charges and about the possibility of charges for additional crimes and against additional defendants?
First, the charges are more serious than prior reporting suggested. Stories in the last few days undersold the case by describing it as one about fringe benefits, of the sort rarely prosecuted. While it is true that this is a case about unreported income and the failure to pay taxes on it, its scope is greater than many expected, for a few reasons. The scheme charged is a 15-year conspiracy to evade taxes, described as involving numerous Trump Organization executives and employees, only one of whom has been charged so far.
The indictment alleges the commission of other crimes in addition to the scheme to defraud in the first degree, namely grand larceny in the second degree -- the second most serious white-collar crime available to state prosecutors in New York -- along with various charges for falsifying records. And District Attorney Cyrus Vance has alleged that defendant Weisselberg not only evaded New York State and New York City taxes, but also evaded federal taxes, increasing the potential tax loss amount significantly. (While state authorities cannot charge the federal crime of evading federal taxes directly under state law, they can use the federal loss amount in charging the intended scope of the scheme to violate state law, as they have done here). All of this means that this is a bigger case, and a bigger headache for Trump and his company, than what was first believed.
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© CNN Jennifer RodgersWe also know from Thursday's indictment and related proceedings that, as has been previously reported, Weisselberg is not cooperating with the investigation. And, given his central role in the charged scheme and other aspects of the Trump Organization's business that are still reportedly under investigation, he almost certainly still has a chance at a cooperation deal -- and many a defendant has changed his tune when the relatively vague notion of a potential criminal case is replaced by the cold, hard, reality of being arrested, handcuffed, fingerprinted and taken to court.
But I think that Weisselberg's importance as a cooperator may not be as great as it previously seemed. Particularly given the language in the indictment pointedly describing other participants in the scheme, it appears at least possible, if not likely, that other charges will be forthcoming whether or not Weisselberg cooperates, because prosecutors either have other important witness testimony, or they can make their case using documentary evidence, or a combination of both.
One thing that was not clarified Thursday is whether the other parts of the ongoing investigations will ever result in charges. Vance, the Manhattan district attorney, and New York State Attorney General Letitia James have been investigating bank fraud and tax fraud related to inflating and deflating assets, as well as the hush money payments to adult movie actress Stormy Daniels. The indictment did not shed light on these issues.
While many unknowns persist, there is certainty on one point: as Trump's strong reaction to these developments demonstrates, Thursday's indictment is very bad news for the former president, with potentially much more bad news to come.

Opinion: This is very bad news for Donald Trump (msn.com)
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Every officer in trumpco, including his Nazi kids, was avoiding taxes in the same way. Someone is going to agree to sing.
 
MAGA said:
whining leftist idiots, I agree, Pelosi has made millions while being a senator through insider trading yet the left want to piss and moan about a private citizens taxes
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Clearly, this is way above your pay grade.
 
Althea said:
It hasn't gotten back to trump personally yet, but the issue is conspiracy to commit tax fraud among other fraud. trumpco aided Weisselberg in state/city/fed tax evasion.

Weisselberg owes taxes, and trumpco was complicit. We're going to find the trump spawn is also involved in tax avoidance.
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...unless Weisselberg commits suicide in his cell when nobody is looking. ;)
 
MAGA said:
Clearly Trump stuck his dick up your ass and broke it off, LOL Please seek treatment for your TDS
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Ol' Buttondick? If it broke off, it broke off long before he became President. It explains a lot of his "sensitivity" to criticism of his physicality, especially his hands.

NSFW
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Althea said:
First we need a minimum of 50 Democrat senators.

We aren't there yet
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PoliTalker said:
Hello Althea,

We need to elect a Congress which will write and pass a new voting rights act.
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Which Senators are up for reelection or leaving empty seats?

Not going by any overall math, but the odds seem to favor the Republicans will gain a seat in the Senate.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/27/politics/2022-senate-race-rankings-may/index.html
The 10 Senate seats most likely to flip in 2022
Pennsylvania Sen. Pat Toomey, a Republican, is not running for reelection, which means it's up to the GOP to hold this seat without him. Biden carried the state by about 1 point last fall, making it a natural place for Democrats to try to flip a seat. Their next best chance to is in Wisconsin, another state Biden won that's currently held by a Republican, Sen. Ron Johnson, who may or may not be running for reelection.

Republicans' best opportunities to flip seats are in Georgia and Arizona -- two traditionally red states that Biden carried last year where recently elected Democratic senators, Raphael Warnock and Mark Kelly, are now running for full six-year terms
 
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Althea said:
Ironic, as they hate Hillary for what they claim is the same thing.
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Moderates don't like either because they're both criminals. ;)

I have higher hopes for Biden...before he resigns and passes to Harris.

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