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SmarterthanYou said:
that's new. I thought conservatives wanted national ID cards to prevent terrorism, or something like that.........
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You've heard of the Cato Institute? Uber conservative?

"In the U.S., we’re nowhere close to living under the degree of surveillance seen in Venezuela or China. Nonetheless, we must remain vigilant for calls for increased data gathering and national ID systems that put our privacy at risk, especially those calls that are couched in the name of immigration enforcement and anti‐​terrorism efforts. These ID proposals, if left unchecked, will diminish the freedom to travel and work, and expose more details of our private lives to the authorities."

https://www.cato.org/commentary/you-value-privacy-resist-any-form-national-id-cards
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
You've heard of the Cato Institute? Uber conservative?

"In the U.S., we’re nowhere close to living under the degree of surveillance seen in Venezuela or China. Nonetheless, we must remain vigilant for calls for increased data gathering and national ID systems that put our privacy at risk, especially those calls that are couched in the name of immigration enforcement and anti‐​terrorism efforts. These ID proposals, if left unchecked, will diminish the freedom to travel and work, and expose more details of our private lives to the authorities."

https://www.cato.org/commentary/you-value-privacy-resist-any-form-national-id-cards
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CATO=uberconservatism is fake news...........they are more Libertarian than anything. It's craptastic misrepresentation like that which lets most intelligent people know that liberals are liars
 
danielpalos said:
I recently looked this up on the web:

https://www.aclu.org/other/oppose-voter-id-legislation-fact-sheet
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I consider anything from the ACLU biased and unbelievable........the facts are that nearly everything in todays society requires a picture ID, using a bank, cashing a check, writing a check, buying a gun, pawning valuables...........nearly everything. So the theory that 21 million americans don't have an ID is probably 'loosely' based upon those millions that live in the boonies and rarely, if ever, use those services, which most likely means that they don't even vote.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
I consider anything from the ACLU biased and unbelievable........the facts are that nearly everything in todays society requires a picture ID, using a bank, cashing a check, writing a check, buying a gun, pawning valuables...........nearly everything. So the theory that 21 million americans don't have an ID is probably 'loosely' based upon those millions that live in the boonies and rarely, if ever, use those services, which most likely means that they don't even vote.
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How many Americans have no car?


Just because you don’t know things doesn’t mean those things are not real


Facts mean something


You musings mean nothing
 
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