10 INDISPUTABLE FACTS on the 2020 Election That Argue for Audits

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you overlook the obvious........the votes in all 50 states were NOT done using the same election system........even the votes in all precincts within the state were not done using the same election system.........in many locations the votes were not even collected according to the laws put in place by the state legislatures of those states.......they were done in some cases under rules set forth by a single appointed demmycrat official in violation of state law.........

of course, that doesn't alarm you in the least.......
 
What an excellent question. If they don't divulge their results and work product, it looks very, very much like they did not get the results that they wanted. What a heinous and dishonest bunch of hyenas that (R) legislature is.
Maricopa county has not fully complied with the subpoena so the auditors are doing a complete job before they release the results.
 
Watch what now? Oh HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I'm too sure that watching some lunatic rant and rave and vomit lies is going to change anyone's mind, let alone mine.

Try harder.
How about watching 70 or more computer security experts from around the country examine the election night P-Cap evidence under the watchful eyes of Republican and Democrat politicians and reporters ? There is a $5 million dollar prize for anyone that proves the election night data is not real. Why not watch it it could be funny if Lindell is as crazy as you think. But if you are afraid it might expose what really happened on November 3rd I would not watch.
 
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It is interesting that the down ballot for Republicans was VERY successful and the Republicans actually picked up seats. Now if presidential votes were flipped like the P-caps of the election show that would happen. Trump votes would go down but his coat tails would still help the down races that were not flipped. Increased down races wins is a thing that makes you suspicious that the Presidential race votes were manipulated. You need to watch Lindell's Cyber Symposium on Aug 10,11, 12 which will examine the election p-caps.

"What Lindell doesn’t seem to know is that there are plenty of suspicious minds right there in Sioux Falls. One of them, an honest to God cyber guy himself, Brian Linder, with a company called Check Points Media, one of the top ten cybersecurity companies on the planet, according to UC San Diego, poured cold water all over Lindell’s claims of having a packet capture of the entire election.

Dakota News Now:
“A packet capture is basically eavesdropping on a computer network, it’s nothing more than that,” said Linder. “The ability to say, what conversations are happening between a device and another device on a network. What they’re going to do with it? Not too much, It’s encrypted. It can’t be trivially decrypted.”

A sample of the packet capture was released by Lindell.

“Experts looked at the so-called packet captures that he had. And in fact, it was not an encrypted packet capture at all,” said Linder. “As a matter of fact, it was an unencrypted stream of meaningless data that mentioned clothing manufacturers it had nothing to do with voting. So he claims to have a raw packet capture that’s encrypted. He doesn’t have that, that’s absolutely a false claim based on the data he provided. Completely false.”
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Could an entire election be captured electronically?

“To intercept and packet capture all of an election, I think the way the New York Times described it, technically incoherent,” said Linder. “I cannot imagine a scenario where it could be pulled off at all.”
As for any cybersecurity experts attending the event, Linder has heard from his peers.

“No credible cybersecurity expert is going to attend this session. There is [ no way] a huge and very, very, very curious community who invests their lives in knowing this, would ever attend a session like this."

https://politizoom.com/mike-lindell...facturers-but-hes-still-looking-to-top-elvis/
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1. Bellwether counties: In 2020, former President Donald J. Trump carried 18 of 19 “bellwether” counties (losing only Clallam County, Washington state). The term “bellwether” in the political arena refers to a county or state that aligns itself with the ultimate winner of an election.

Political realignments (gerrymandering of districts for instance) can cause some counties or states to lose “bellwether” status over time. From 1980 to 2016, 19 counties, most of them industrial counties in the northern and midwestern United States, voted for the winner of all 10 presidential elections. Additionally, since 1936, a key bellwether county, Luzerne County of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, has gone to the winner of Pennsylvania, regardless of party.

In 2016 and 2020, Trump won that county handily. Any Republican winning Luzerne County in that time frame (since 1936) has also never failed to carry the state of Michigan.

2. Bellwether states: In 2020, Trump carried four vital bellwether states (Ohio, Iowa, North Carolina and Florida). These states represent a strong base consisting of urban, suburban, rural, union and ethnic minority voters. Additionally, these states have been won by the same candidate 13 times since 1896, and every single time, that candidate won either the presidency or their re-election.

Bellwether states also come in and out of existence with demographic realignments. For instance, in 2000, George W. Bush became the first Republican to win the presidency without carrying Vermont or Illinois. On all but two occasions since 1896, Ohio’s electoral votes went to the ultimate winner of the presidency. Trump overwhelmingly won Ohio in 2020.

3. Share of primary votes: Share of primary votes during the primary elections is a way to judge outcomes of presidential elections.

Since presidential primaries began in 1912, only four incumbents have lost re-election, all garnering 72.8 percent of the primary vote or less. Herbert Hoover lost in 1932 after earning 36.0 percent in the Republican primaries, Gerald Ford lost in 1976 after earning 53.3 percent, Jimmy Carter (a Democratic incumbent) lost in 1980 after earning 51.1 percent, and George H.W. Bush lost in 1992 after earning 72.8 percent.

The most dominant Republican landslide re-elections in this time frame were won by Dwight Eisenhower (1956, 85.9 percent primary share), Richard Nixon (1972, 86.9 percent) and Ronald Reagan (1984, 98.8 percent). Trump won 94.0 percent in 2020.

In contrast, Joe Biden was trounced in the 2020 Democratic primaries in Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada — the traditional indicators of general election viability. His running mate, Kamala Harris, dropped out before primary voting even began.

4. Incumbents who gain votes win: Incumbent vote gain is another key indicator of presidential race outcomes. Since 1892, and as the expansion of the United States slowed, only six presidents have lost re-election. All six had fewer total votes in their re-election campaigns than in their initial campaigns. All incumbents who gained votes won re-election.

In 2020, Trump gained a record 11 million votes. For perspective, former President Barack Obama lost 4 million votes nationally in 2012 and still won re-election.

5. Voter registration by party: Voter registration by party is touted as one of the most accurate predictors of determining presidential election outcomes. Not all states register voters by party, but for those that do, the evidence is plain to see.

As far back as records are publicly available, three of the key states in the 2020 election — Pennsylvania, Florida and North Carolina — have moved in favor of the same party that made overall registration gains since 2000. In Pennsylvania, from 2012 to 2016, 60 of 67 counties trended more Republican in registration, suggesting a major GOP gain in the state — consequently, Pennsylvania flipped for Trump in 2016.

A legitimate Trump loss in Pennsylvania would show a registration lead expansion for Democrats. However, from 2016 to 2020, 60 of 67 counties became more Republican in registration once again, with the GOP registering roughly 242,000 net new voters, compared to just 12,000 for Democrats.

This number suggests that the margin of victory for Trump should have substantially increased.

6. Down-ballot voting: House of Representatives down-ballot voting is an indicator of success for the top of the ticket.

When Obama won a landslide victory in 2008, the Democrats took 14 U.S. House seats away from Republican incumbents, while losing only five seats. When Reagan was elected in 1980, the Republicans gained a net of 34 seats. When Reagan was re-elected, Republicans clawed back a net of 16 House seats from the 26 lost in the 1982 midterms.

In 2020, with Trump at the top of the ticket, Republicans knocked out 13 incumbent Democratic seats, while not losing a single Republican-held seat. Common sense suggests a Biden electoral landslide would have taken at least a single Republican seat with it.

7. Florida as a key trend indicator: Why is Florida such an important indicator of presidential election success? Since 1932, Florida’s trajectory has correlated perfectly with the trajectory of Michigan and Pennsylvania as a reflection of working-class political sentiment.

In every single election since then, if Florida became more Republican from the previous election, Michigan and Pennsylvania did exactly the same. These three states also largely move together to the left when Democratic nominees make gains.

In 2020, Trump won Florida by a margin greater than 2 percentage points higher than he did in 2016. Despite a massive Republican registration advantage in Pennsylvania, both Pennsylvania and Michigan charted a separate direction from Florida for the first time in nearly a century.

8. Gaining everywhere but losing everything: Despite historic strength and gains of Trump in battleground states and battleground counties, Trump “lost.”

Maricopa County, Arizona, which casts nearly two-thirds of all votes in Arizona, has not voted for the Democratic nominee since it supported Harry Truman in 1948. In 1996, Bob Dole became the first Republican in nearly 50 years to lose Arizona, but he still won Maricopa County.

Trump carried the county by 3 percentage points in 2016 while receiving fewer votes than Mitt Romney had in the county in 2012. In 2020, Trump set a Republican record for net additional votes in Maricopa County by adding roughly 248,000 from his 2016 performance, only to become the first Republican nominee (and incumbent president) to lose the county in 72 years.

That was accomplished by Biden’s gain of nearly 338,000 net “new votes” from 2016, which is nearly three times higher than the all-time previous high Democratic vote gain in the county by John Kerry in 2004. Similar record high vote totals and increases for Trump were also eclipsed in 2020 in the states of Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada and Minnesota, in “losing efforts.”

9. Victory goes to the minority vote-getter: Trump achieved historic improvements with minority voters across the nation.

Trump netted more than one-quarter of the non-white vote in his re-election campaign, achieving a level of minority support seen just one time since Nixon’s 1960 campaign. His progress was evident in urban areas in the Midwest, such as Wayne County, Michigan; southern Texas, where Trump won counties that had been in the Democratic column for decades; and perhaps most notably, in Miami-Dade County, Florida.

Trump’s vote increases in long-held Republican suburban counties, and in working-class counties like Mahoning County, Ohio (which he flipped for the first time since 1972), indicate that his white support did not collapse as reported by the mainstream media. The absence of millions of core Democratic base minority voters raises considerable questions as to how Biden was able to surpass Obama’s popular vote record by 12 million.

10. 2020 was “the most secure presidential election in U.S. history”: Post-election behavior by politicians on both sides and their mainstream media and Big Tech allies is beyond contemptible.

In 2016, with narrow margins in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, Trump’s camp had no concern over recounts or potential audits in any of those three states that decided the election. Biden’s certified margins in Pennsylvania and Michigan are much larger than the margins in those states in 2016, but opposition to full forensic audits either statewide or in suspect counties has turned into an all-out legal and ideological war in 2021 (sometimes referred to as “lawfare”).

If Biden’s team was 100 percent confident they won the election fair and square, then they should feel there is nothing to hide. Audits confirming his certified totals would certainly solidify his administration and simultaneously deal an embarrassing defeat to election skeptics.

Instead, the establishment media insists that, despite thousands of affidavits and personal accounts describing fraud along with the recent Arizona state Senate hearing on Maricopa County’s audit, the 2020 election was “the most secure in U.S. history.”

Democratic secretaries of state are running cover as well. In one example of many, the Colorado secretary of state recently acted outside of her authority, effectively banning audits in the state. The single biggest question to ask all states’ legislatures is this: If your candidate won hands-down and there is nothing to hide, why not conduct a full forensic audit of several of your states’ counties?

A sacrosanct element within our constitutional republic is the privilege, the right and the act of voting for our elected leaders. The American people have taken many of our rights and responsibilities for granted far too long, and this past presidential election clearly woke us up to that fact.

Maybe what is needed now in America is for us all to stop taking our freedoms for granted.

What might be the eventual outcome of the 2020 election, only God knows. I can say, as one who is paying very close attention to it from the very outset, that the confusion, the complexity and the deception by many in the media and within our very own government doesn’t offer the citizenry of our great republic any sense of confidence.....
https://www.westernjournal.com/gen-flynn-exclusive-10-indisputable-facts-2020-election-argue-audits/

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The push for more audits is gaining momentum. If you are a Liberal what exactly are you afraid of why are you against transparency?

It was a ................ MIRACLE!!!! :laugh: :thumbsup:
 
Facts regarding the BIDEN Miracle:

Trump, received 74,222,958 votes, which beat a much more popular Obama by 8.307,163 votes and who had massive, enthusiastic crowds at his events, could lose an election by 7,060,140 votes.

Trump, who bettered his 2016 election WIN by 11,237,852 votes and still lost.

Election turnout for Obama was 57.1% and 9.2% lower than this election at 66.3%. That's the highest turnout for a boring candidate in the history of the Republic.

Turnout increased in every state and in 98 percent of the nation’s counties.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...voter-turnout/

Republicans INCREASED their House presence by 13 seats, yet Trump lost by such a large margin to an incompetent, unaccomplished, senile 79 year old racist.

2018 Dems 212 Republicans 199
2020 Dems 222 Republicans 212

Obama 2008 - 69,498,516
Obama 2012 - 65,915,796
Trump 2016 - 62,985,106
Trump 2020 - 74,222,958
Biden 2020 - 81,283,098

Vote Count 2008: 131,473,705
Vote Count 2012: 129,237,642 Decrease by 2,236,063
Vote Count 2016: 137,143,218
Vote Count 2020: 158,584,425

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?f=0&off=99

Should we call the 2020 turnout the Biden Miracle??? He beat Obama's RECORD turnout by FIVE percentage points. A Candidate that couldn't remember where he was, generated little excitement and whose only campaign plan was "anyone BUT Trump?"

Turnout was higher by 23,021,181 voters????

Turnout statistics
1980 52.8%
1984 53.3%
1988 50.3%
1992 55.2%
1996 49.0%
2000 50.3%
2004 55.7%
2008 57.1%
2012 53.8%
2016 54.8%
2020 62.0%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_presidential_elections

According to data reported by the US Census Bureau 253,768,092 were adults that were 18 years old or older. So your telling me that EIGHTY-FOUR percent of the population registered to vote.

That is unprecedented. Of that portion, 158,432,595. or 74% voted.

Therefore, Trump, with 74,216,154, shattering Obama's record, LOST to a senile old dunce who got 81,268,924 beating Obama's popularity by 11,770,408 making Biden the most popular President in the history of the Republic. Yet, he couldn't fill a small meeting room of supporters during the campaign or remember what office he was running for. 2020 was TRULY the MIRACLE of miracles eh?
How Many Adults Live in the US? (reference.com)[/size]
 
by now everyone should realize the issue isn't whether he lost but how he lost........I expect that is the issue the demmycunts never want examined.....

Did you want Bush’s victory examined in Ohio in ‘04 when Greg Palast and a bunch of liberals claimed Bush stole it? I don’t recall Republicans at the time saying why should anyone be afraid of reviewing the election results. Why is it any different here? It seems to me in both scenarios it’s people who are pissed they lost and can’t accept it.
 
Did you want Bush’s victory examined in Ohio in ‘04 when Greg Palast and a bunch of liberals claimed Bush stole it?

Democrats say every Republican who wins stole it. Are you living in a cave? :palm:

I don’t recall Republicans at the time saying why should anyone be afraid of reviewing the election results. Why is it any different here? It seems to me in both scenarios it’s people who are pissed they lost and can’t accept it.

Apparently the point of this debate is beyond your "peter" principle. The data suggests that something very unusual happened in 2020. The rhetoric also suggests that those who declare arguments to audit are conspiracy theorists who should be ignored.

IF the election was so above board, why all the desperate rhetoric, flailing and name calling? Why not just allow for these audits to PROVE the votes were indeed cast.

I am still scratching my head at the thought that Biden beat out a much more popular Obama by 15,367,302 votes or that the 2020 voter turnout was 29,346,783 than the much more popular Obama turnout.

In addition, the losing party retains a 50/50 spilt in the Senate and wins back 14 seats in the House. How is that possible?
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"What Lindell doesn’t seem to know is that there are plenty of suspicious minds right there in Sioux Falls. One of them, an honest to God cyber guy himself, Brian Linder, with a company called Check Points Media, one of the top ten cybersecurity companies on the planet, according to UC San Diego, poured cold water all over Lindell’s claims of having a packet capture of the entire election.

Dakota News Now:
“A packet capture is basically eavesdropping on a computer network, it’s nothing more than that,” said Linder. “The ability to say, what conversations are happening between a device and another device on a network. What they’re going to do with it? Not too much, It’s encrypted. It can’t be trivially decrypted.”

A sample of the packet capture was released by Lindell.

“Experts looked at the so-called packet captures that he had. And in fact, it was not an encrypted packet capture at all,” said Linder. “As a matter of fact, it was an unencrypted stream of meaningless data that mentioned clothing manufacturers it had nothing to do with voting. So he claims to have a raw packet capture that’s encrypted. He doesn’t have that, that’s absolutely a false claim based on the data he provided. Completely false.”
​

Could an entire election be captured electronically?

“To intercept and packet capture all of an election, I think the way the New York Times described it, technically incoherent,” said Linder. “I cannot imagine a scenario where it could be pulled off at all.”
As for any cybersecurity experts attending the event, Linder has heard from his peers.

“No credible cybersecurity expert is going to attend this session. There is [ no way] a huge and very, very, very curious community who invests their lives in knowing this, would ever attend a session like this."

https://politizoom.com/mike-lindell...facturers-but-hes-still-looking-to-top-elvis/
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Lindell isn't worth debunking. It's like talking to the crazy preacher on the street corner. No one is going to watch his symposium, not one mind will be changed, and Lindell will go broke paying Dominion. There isn't any suspense in any of it. It's just a waste of time for anyone that even indulges the fantasy. Let Lindell run his Trump cult circle jerk. Maybe kleenex sales will go up a tick, but that's about it.
 
Recounts are not Forensic audits. Non of those court cases examined the evidence they were thrown out for lack of standing etc.

Read those court cases--they did not present any evidence which is one reason some of them were thrown out.
 
Did you want Bush’s victory examined in Ohio in ‘04 when Greg Palast and a bunch of liberals claimed Bush stole it? I don’t recall Republicans at the time saying why should anyone be afraid of reviewing the election results. Why is it any different here? It seems to me in both scenarios it’s people who are pissed they lost and can’t accept it.

I don't even remember Demmycrats mentioning it.......if they had hired an audit of the Ohio vote like was done in Arizona I doubt I would have wasted time criticizing it before there any published results.......
 
Read those court cases--they did not present any evidence which is one reason some of them were thrown out.

you object to looking for evidence on the basis that it hasn't already been found......I hear they solve murder cases the same way in Chicago........
 
9. Victory goes to the minority vote-getter: Trump achieved historic improvements with minority voters across the nation.

Trump netted more than one-quarter of the non-white vote in his re-election campaign, achieving a level of minority support seen just one time since Nixon’s 1960 campaign. His progress was evident in urban areas in the Midwest, such as Wayne County, Michigan; southern Texas, where Trump won counties that had been in the Democratic column for decades; and perhaps most notably, in Miami-Dade County, Florida.

Trump’s vote increases in long-held Republican suburban counties, and in working-class counties like Mahoning County, Ohio (which he flipped for the first time since 1972), indicate that his white support did not collapse as reported by the mainstream media. The absence of millions of core Democratic base minority voters raises considerable questions as to how Biden was able to surpass Obama’s popular vote record by 12 million.

Hispanic voters: Biden=63%
Black voters: Biden=90%
Asian voters: Biden=67%

Looks like this is an indisputable fact--the victory goes to the minority vote-getter (in 2020 but not 2016).

Trump's improvements did not make him the winner of the minority vote.
 
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