10 INDISPUTABLE FACTS on the 2020 Election That Argue for Audits

Flash said:
People can claim anything in a hearing. That does not make it evidence. I saw a congressional hearing about Hurricane Katrina and a lady from New Orleans claimed the government blew up the levy.
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Sworn testimony. But just wait till the report comes out if you want.
 
ExpressLane said:
No he had to calculate from a different date. My facts still stand.
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He had no reason to calculate from a different date other than his claim would not be true if he included Cleveland in his data. It proves all incumbent presidents who win more votes in their re-election campaign do not win re-election.
 
Flash said:
He had no reason to calculate from a different date other than his claim would not be true if he included Cleveland in his data. It proves all incumbent presidents who win more votes in their re-election campaign do not win re-election.
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The trend goes back more than 120 years
 
Flash said:
No, they can look. I favored looking for evidence of Russian collusion and interference, the report of the whistleblower who reported attempts to blackmail the Ukraine, Hillary's email violations, and Trump's attempt to overturn the election results.

Did you also favor looking into all these other issues or did you whine about the Mueller investigation.

However, I don't favor looking into issues where there is no evidence that a problem might exist. I don't look for bigfoot in the woods behind my house because there is no legitimate claim he exists. Show me some and I'll start searching those woods.
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I loved the Mueller investigation after the report came out and he told you that you'd been idiots for three years.........I expect you'll feel the same way if no evidence of fraud is found.....of course, if you thought that was going to happen you wouldn't be this worried.......as you may recall my favorite statement about the Mueller investigation was "you people are going to be so disappointed".........
 
ExpressLane said:
The trend goes back more than 120 years
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Why stop 8 years before it would not have been a trend. It still has nothing to do with voter fraud.

It is also a long established pattern that the popular vote winner usually wins the electoral college. Since that did not happen in 2016, did that make it a fraudulent election? A lot of votes came in late at night in states in which Hillary was ahead and were usually blue states (WI, PA) and Trump barely won those states by a total of about 40,000 votes.

That sounds like the same kind of outcome Republicans claim proves fraud although most Democrats did not claim it was fraud in 2016 (except Hillary).

A trend is just a trend until it changes. The South never elected any Republicans for many years and now they do.
 
Flash said:
Why stop 8 years before it would not have been a trend. It still has nothing to do with voter fraud.

It is also a long established pattern that the popular vote winner usually wins the electoral college. Since that did not happen in 2016, did that make it a fraudulent election? A lot of votes came in late at night in states in which Hillary was ahead and were usually blue states (WI, PA) and Trump barely won those states by a total of about 40,000 votes.

That sounds like the same kind of outcome Republicans claim proves fraud although most Democrats did not claim it was fraud in 2016 (except Hillary).

A trend is just a trend until it changes. The South never elected any Republicans for many years and now they do.
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We think back to Trump winning and the various factors at play. He won states like WI and MI with small margins. We know there were a number of pissed off Bernie supporters who didn’t vote for Hillary and you had a black population that has issues with Hillary and didn’t turn out in full force. The point being Trump didn’t have a lot of room to work with.

When it came to 2020 those Bernie supporters may still have been pissed but they weren’t sitting out another election. You had black people turn out in huge numbers. And suburban white women specifically were turned off by Trump. Trump may have had a passionate base but that alone doesn’t win.
 
Flash said:
Why stop 8 years before it would not have been a trend. It still has nothing to do with voter fraud.

It is also a long established pattern that the popular vote winner usually wins the electoral college. Since that did not happen in 2016, did that make it a fraudulent election? A lot of votes came in late at night in states in which Hillary was ahead and were usually blue states (WI, PA) and Trump barely won those states by a total of about 40,000 votes.

That sounds like the same kind of outcome Republicans claim proves fraud although most Democrats did not claim it was fraud in 2016 (except Hillary).

A trend is just a trend until it changes. The South never elected any Republicans for many years and now they do.
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Adams , Hayes, Harrison, Bush and Trump all won the EC but lost the popular vote so what exactly is your point?,
 
cawacko said:
We think back to Trump winning and the various factors at play. He won states like WI and MI with small margins. We know there were a number of pissed off Bernie supporters who didn’t vote for Hillary and you had a black population that has issues with Hillary and didn’t turn out in full force. The point being Trump didn’t have a lot of room to work with.

When it came to 2020 those Bernie supporters may still have been pissed but they weren’t sitting out another election. You had black people turn out in huge numbers. And suburban white women specifically were turned off by Trump. Trump may have had a passionate base but that alone doesn’t win.
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I'll admit that 2016 seemed like a miracle for Trump. And I have wondered if the Chinese might have hacked that election LIKE THEY DID IN 2020. The ballots are destroyed after 22 months so we will never know for sure. But we can know for sure what happened in 2020 so for that reason we need to do forensic audits in a few suspect states. If you want to know what happened before any forensic audits watch on Aug 10,11, and 12. It will show you what happened and why there are so many anomalies in the 2020 election.
 
dukkha said:
Yet Trump got us the vaccine in record time. Trump followed fauci's advice as well on lockdowns
But lockdowns were only supposed to be temporary, not month after month
The denials were early when we didnt know what COVID was -Trump said he didnt want to cause a panic.

What you might want to look at is Fauci denying GOF research paid for by the US, and COVID released by the Wuhan lab if you are looking to assign blame -start with where it came from and Chinese now blaming the US military
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No one said that Trump got the vaccine in record time, so what? How many got infected and possibly died because he refused to wear a mask?
 
ExpressLane said:
I'll admit that 2016 seemed like a miracle for Trump. And I have wondered if the Chinese might have hacked that election LIKE THEY DID IN 2020. The ballots are destroyed after 22 months so we will never know for sure. But we can know for sure what happened in 2020 so for that reason we need to do forensic audits in a few suspect states. If you want to know what happened before any forensic audits watch on Aug 10,11, and 12. It will show you what happened and why there are so many anomalies in the 2020 election.
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No disrespect man but I’m not watching any of that. I can’t believe I’ve spent this much time already discussing all this conspiracy stuff. Nothing is changing and Trump is not going to be put back into office. (And we’ve already seen the damage it’s done causing us to lose the two GA Senate races.) And people continue to waste their time on this instead focusing on the future and regaining power.
 
cawacko said:
No disrespect man but I’m not watching any of that. I can’t believe I’ve spent this much time already discussing all this conspiracy stuff. Nothing is changing and Trump is not going to be put back into office. (And we’ve already seen the damage it’s done causing us to lose the two GA Senate races.) And people continue to waste their time on this instead focusing on the future and regaining power.
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Actually there is P-cap evidence on those two races also.

If there is proof positive that there was an outside interference what would you do?
 
ExpressLane said:
Actually there is P-cap evidence on those two races also.

If there is proof positive that there was an outside interference what would you do?
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If P-Cap is code for Trump and people like Lin Wood only talked about fraud and stay home and don’t vote as the reason why we lost those races then I believe it. You had a combination of high black turnout and enough Trump supporters staying home. And we still hear rhetoric about future fraud that will likely help suppress Republican turnout going forward
 
cawacko said:
If P-Cap is code for Trump and people like Lin Wood only talked about fraud and stay home and don’t vote as the reason why we lost those races then I believe it. You had a combination of high black turnout and enough Trump supporters staying home. And we still hear rhetoric about future fraud that will likely help suppress Republican turnout going forward
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Actually P-cap is code for exactly what computers communicated to the election machines and exactly what those machines were told to do. It also gives us the exact location of the computers that attacked our election. Pcaps give date time location of the attacker ip address of the attacker location of the target IP address and the instructions and whether the attack was successful or not. Pcaps cannot be altered they are what they are.

Lindell has 37 terabytes of what went on in over 3000 counties in the 2020 election he also has them on the Georgia senate election.
 
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