What went badly in Afghanistan? Why the hype?

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Okay, the war went very badly, we lost after 20 years, loss of lives of heros, countless billions of dollars, and nothing to show for it...


But as far as the pull out, what was really that bad?
Everyone knew it would be messy...

1) Americans not charged.
2) No weapons given to the Taliban.
3) No Americans killed.
4) Everyone will be evacuated.

I saw a mob at the airport, and some idiots who climbed onto an airplane as it took off fell to their deaths (what did they expect), that's about as bad as it got.

What went so badly exactly?

Biden left 20000 hostages behind.

Edit: if everyone gets evacuated then fine. Good job Biden.

consider

1. The DOD has said they have no capability to extend further than HK airport
2. The Biden admin has no idea how many Americans there even are in Afghanistan
3. Americans are being told to make their way back to HK airport on their own
4. In 2 days we have evacuated a grand total of 200 americans. Im not knocking the 6000-7000 Afghans evacuated. Thats fine they were already there anyway and its a waste to send out empty airplanes.

Theres really only one thing left. Were going to have to pay ransom and massive amounts of it.

The consequence of not doing it is that Iran, Russia, NK, China, and pretty much every other country buys the people left behind from the Taliban and we have multiple hostage crisises.
 
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What are they reporting? Tell me the facts they are reporting?
They are really ripping into Milley. The thing that disgusts me, they aren’t talking about how the majority of Americans supported the withdrawal or the deal that forced Biden’s hand. They have a lot of Afghanis on that condemn the withdrawal, basically with the attitude that America should stay there till Afghanistan is a modern democracy.
 
I saw a mob at the airport, and some idiots who climbed onto an airplane as it took off fell to their deaths (what did they expect), that's about as bad as it got.

besides that and the folks murdered by the Taliban........if that's not bad, what does "bad" look like in your imagination?.......

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Biden left 20000 hostages behind.

Edit: if everyone gets evacuated then fine. Good job Biden.

consider

1. The DOD has said they have no capability to extend further than HK airport
2. The Biden admin has no idea how many Americans there even are in Afghanistan
3. Americans are being told to make their way back to HK airport on their own
4. In 2 days we have evacuated a grand total of 200 americans. Im not knocking the 6000-7000 Afghans evacuated. Thats fine they were already there anyway and its a waste to send out empty airplanes.

Theres really only one thing left. Were going to have to pay ransom and massive amounts of it.

The consequence of not doing it is that Iran, Russia, NK, China, and pretty much every other country buys the people left behind from the Taliban and we have multiple hostage crisises.

1) We all knew we would not have capacity to extend further than the HK Airport and Americans are getting through, they are not stuck in Kabul, some are even choosing to stay.
2) Nobody has ever known how many Americans there are in Afghanistan.
3) They are being told to get to the Airport because its open for them to do so.
4) We have evacuated more than 200 Americans (you are lying) but the number is low because most who want out are already out.

Nobody is going to be ransomed, you will pretend you did not make that prediction in a couple weeks.

BUT hey, thanks for trying. You at least are the only one with any "facts" to claim. I do understand this stuff is being reported, but the facts do not represent the reality you are trying to claim.
 
They’re still removing people, how have they been left behind?

You have it ass backwards.

Who has control over them now? The US or the Taliban? If a rogue Taliban commander decided to start hanging Americans could we stop it?

You can try to pretty it up all you want but at the end of the day we left them behind and we are now trying to rescue them.

If we do rescue them then I think this will blow over and be largely forgotten. If they start dying on tv or getting sold to rogue states then were probably looking at President Pelosi.
 
They are really ripping into Milley. The thing that disgusts me, they aren’t talking about how the majority of Americans supported the withdrawal or the deal that forced Biden’s hand. They have a lot of Afghanis on that condemn the withdrawal, basically with the attitude that America should stay there till Afghanistan is a modern democracy.

We all knew any president who withdrew would get that criticism, its why Obama, and Trump did not do it.
 
besides that and the folks murdered by the Taliban........if that's not bad, what does "bad" look like in your imagination?.......

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What folks have been murdered by the Taliban? Is it our job to stay and save everyone in Afghanistan from their own people?
 
1) We all knew we would not have capacity to extend further than the HK Airport and Americans are getting through, they are not stuck in Kabul, some are even choosing to stay.
2) Nobody has ever known how many Americans there are in Afghanistan.
3) They are being told to get to the Airport because its open for them to do so.
4) We have evacuated more than 200 Americans (you are lying) but the number is low because most who want out are already out.

Nobody is going to be ransomed, you will pretend you did not make that prediction in a couple weeks.

BUT hey, thanks for trying. You at least are the only one with any "facts" to claim. I do understand this stuff is being reported, but the facts do not represent the reality you are trying to claim.

I do wonder if you live in teh same reality the rest of us do. The absolute lowest estimate we have is 5000 Americans in Afghanistan and you are saying that were not evacuating a lot because the rest of them want to stay?

The Americans themselves are saying they cant get to the airport and frankly I would even question how some outside of Kabul are even expected to make the journey.

The 200 comes from the DOD thats as close an estimate I can get to how many they have evacuated. If you have a better number of Americans who have been post your source.
 
You have it ass backwards.

Who has control over them now? The US or the Taliban? If a rogue Taliban commander decided to start hanging Americans could we stop it?

You can try to pretty it up all you want but at the end of the day we left them behind and we are now trying to rescue them.

If we do rescue them then I think this will blow over and be largely forgotten. If they start dying on tv or getting sold to rogue states then were probably looking at President Pelosi.

The point is that a rogue Taliban commander is not doing that, they are giving them safe passage to the HK airport.

They want us out more than we want out.
 
What folks have been murdered by the Taliban? Is it our job to stay and save everyone in Afghanistan from their own people?

well of course not.....we don't even do that in Chicago........but Biden's fuckups have obviously made things worse......
 
We all knew any president who withdrew would get that criticism, its why Obama, and Trump did not do it.

On that note why is it exactly that French and British spec ops can go and get their people from Kabul while America cant?
 
You have it ass backwards.

Who has control over them now? The US or the Taliban? If a rogue Taliban commander decided to start hanging Americans could we stop it?

You can try to pretty it up all you want but at the end of the day we left them behind and we are now trying to rescue them.

If we do rescue them then I think this will blow over and be largely forgotten. If they start dying on tv or getting sold to rogue states then were probably looking at President Pelosi.

Lol, they weren’t left behind, there was always a plan to get them out. Trump should have started the process when he started troop withdrawals, why didn’t he do that? Why does Biden get all the blame, seems to me the administration who was playing catch up and didn’t get information on foreign policies till January 21 because Trump refused to follow protocol, shouldn’t get the brunt of the blame.
 
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