Australia descends into Covid madness

[Walt]

Cancer cells not not necessarily reproduce quickly. The virus a cancer cell contains can certainly alter healthy cells into cancer cells.

If cancer cells are not reproducing quickly, they are not cancer cells. Cancer is not contagious.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Australia has been becoming idiotic and authoritarian for awhile, I know I was pointing it out a decade ago with their draconian speech restrictions.

 

[Monad Portal]

Cancer cells reproduce quickly, mostly, they do not alter non cancer cells to be cancer cells.

a "cancer cell" is a host cell that was mutated into unreasonable and problematic activity.

 

[Hawkeye10]

a "cancer cell" is a host cell that was mutated into unreasonable and problematic activity.

It does not do its job.....at all.

 

[Monad Portal]

Australia has been becoming idiotic and authoritarian for awhile, I know I was pointing it out a decade ago with their draconian speech restrictions.

look up vinny eastwood. a one in a million bloke.

 

[Monad Portal]

It does not do its job.....at all.

cancer cells should, like, totally be fired.

 

[Walt]

a "cancer cell" is a host cell that was mutated into unreasonable and problematic activity.

Cancer cells are not hosts, because they are not hosting anything.

 

[Monad Portal]

Cancer cells are not hosts, because they are not hosting anything.

word games. I win.

 

[Monad Portal]

A benign tumor does not grow, and so therefore is not a cancer. By definition, a cancer is mutated cells that abnormally grow. There are plenty of mutated cells in your body, not growing, that are just fine.

how did it get to be the size it is?

 

[Walt]

word games. I win.

Almost without exception, everything you have said has been wrong.

 

[Walt]

how did it get to be the size it is?

Cancer gets to be the size it is by growing.

 

[Monad Portal]

Cancer gets to be the size it is by growing.

but how do benign tumors get to be the size they're at?

 

[Hawkeye10]

Australia's zero COVID policy has long been insane, but they just cant quit aiming for an impossible goal....at great expense.

 

[Darth Omar]

No, the genetics are not changed, or hijacked. The point of the hijacking is at the parts of the cell that produce proteins, not at the genetics. There is no logic reason that this would modify the DNA of the cell, and it has not been seen to do such.

Alter, proteins are constructed within the cell according to a script. Commonly referred to by a three letter acronym.

It’s mathematically impossible for any functional protein to self assemble or ‘fall together’.

 

[Darth Omar]

Australia's zero COVID policy has long been insane, but they just cant quit aiming for an impossible goal....at great expense.

And people can only be pushed so far.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Another two problems:

The rhetoric highlighting Australia’s “slow and steady” approach to vaccination was meant to instil faith that proper process was being followed. Instead, it has backfired by raising concerns. In the process of justifying Australia’s slow rollout, Morrison repeatedly insulted key allies by insinuating their faster programmes were unsafe, rushed, and problematic. At one point, the UK’s Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) was forced to issue a statement correcting Morrison’s false claim that the UK does not test each vaccine batch for purity.
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.But in a way Young is right. There is no point in getting a vaccine when borders are shut and there are few locally transmitted cases. It’s a Catch-22: you cannot open the borders until people are vaccinated, but there’s no point in getting your vaccination while the borders are shut. Australia is on the cusp of becoming the Hermit Kingdom. There is no prospect of international borders reopening until 2022. There are calls for harsh arrival caps to be halved. Closed borders remain extremely popular. It will take another 12 months for the completion of Australia’s vaccine programme at its current pace. Even then, Australians seem unwilling to accept even a single case of community transmission. Even vaccines are not 100 percent effective and cannot guarantee zero cases and so quarantine and lockdowns could continue for some time.

https://quillette.com/2021/06/30/australias-covid-catch-22/

 

[Walt]

but how do benign tumors get to be the size they're at?

They grow slowly, not out of control. When they reach a size where they stop growing, they stop growing. Cancer grows quickly, and will not stop.

 

[Hawkeye10]

And people can only be pushed so far.

True, but what the Australian people have been willing to tolerate to this point, and I dont just mean COVID I am talking about their freedom being broadly removed, has been alarming.

 

[Walt]

Alter, proteins are constructed within the cell according to a script. Commonly referred to by a three letter acronym.

It’s mathematically impossible for any functional protein to self assemble or ‘fall together’.

DNA is a protein that self replicates.

 

[Walt]

And people can only be pushed so far.

The Australian people are extremely happy with the country they live in. They do not feel oppressed. They look at their problem of being quarantined from the rest of the world as a failure of the rest of the world, not their failure to get the disease. Their country is prosperous at almost all levels.