The socialist leader America loves to hate wins again. What now?

[Into the Night]

That problem is because we do not have public funding of elections.

We do.

I know you would vote against that because it would not fit in with your jejune preconceptions. Our elections costs a billion dollars.

Making up numbers and using them as data is a fallacy, dude.

That means lots of money from the super-rich and corporations.

Everyone is taxed, except thieves.

That gives them power because all donations have hooks in them.

A tax is not a donation, dumbass.

Quit being a jerk It hurts anything you say. Grow up. It is not painful.

Inversion fallacy.

 

[moon]

He's not? Any evidence of that? What we do know is that he has his own bible and does not imbibe alcohol.

Apparently you don't care about the failure of Marxism and Socialism and the millions that attempt to escape it. Why don't you move there? What's holding you back? Hell, I'd help you pack and pay part of cost. One less moron in the country cannot be bad.

Dumbest post ever. Yeah dipshit, that must be why Cubans and Venezuelans risk death to escape their Marxist utopias. Move there! Get back to us on how great it is.

Absurdity; the last desperate refuge for the ignorant, the dishonest and the stupid. Yay you!

You poor, stumbling, corporate clown.



Haw, haw...........................haw.

 

[moon]

Into the Night Soil

Haw, haw...........................haw.

 

[moon]

One in ten Venezuelans disagree: they left the country.

Latin-America’s worst-ever refugee crisis
https://web.archive.org/web/2018022...b85c7e-1807-11e8-8b08-027a6ccb38eb_story.html

WaPo says Venezuelans are starving after a decade of economic mismanagement . Course they would say that, they’re hand in glove with US imperialism.

Well- let's concentrate upon the nine -out-of-ten Venezuelans.

You've run out of feet to bandage.

 

[Tranquillus in Exile]

let's concentrate upon the nine -out-of-ten Venezuelans.

The ones who couldn’t get out? Those are the ones that WaPo says are starving!

"more than 90 percent say they do not have the means to buy sufficient food ...
stores empty of food and hospitals deprived even of common medicines ...
refusal of the government to accept humanitarian aid, which it describes as a means for foreign invasion."

https://web.archive.org/web/2018022...b85c7e-1807-11e8-8b08-027a6ccb38eb_story.html

 

[moon]

The ones who couldn’t get out? Those are the ones that WaPo says are starving!

"more than 90 percent say they do not have the means to buy sufficient food ...
stores empty of food and hospitals deprived even of common medicines ...
refusal of the government to accept humanitarian aid, which it describes as a means for foreign invasion."

https://web.archive.org/web/2018022...b85c7e-1807-11e8-8b08-027a6ccb38eb_story.html

Yours is the usual spiel- apply sanctions/report people's suffering as a result of bad government/invade to ' free' them.

Venezuela rode it out . You are losing.
Now turn your attention to the forthcoming Covid and supply riots in England.

 

[Tranquillus in Exile]

Yours is the usual spiel

Not my spiel, I was quoting the Washington Post Editorial Board.

apply sanctions/report people's suffering as a result of bad government

You are confusing cause and effect. The UN High Commissioner for Human Rights reported that “the pervasive and devastating economic and social crisis began before the imposition of the first economic sanctions". And the first sanctions were targeted at individuals only.
https://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=24374&LangID=E

You are losing. Now turn your attention to the forthcoming Covid and supply riots in England.

I'm not starving and neither are you. But we'll see what happens when the supply riots start, eh?

 

[moon]

Not my spiel, I was quoting the Washington Post Editorial Board.




You are confusing cause and effect. The UN High Commissioner for Human Rights reported that “the pervasive and devastating economic and social crisis began before the imposition of the first economic sanctions". And the first sanctions were targeted at individuals only.
https://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=24374&LangID=E

You are saying that sanctions were applied as a result of people suffering economic crisis.

Haw, haw........................haw.

But we'll see what happens when the supply riots start, eh?

Covid riots first, I'd say................although your government does put its own ass before the lives of its population.

 

[Diesel]

The most vocal can't even define Socialism or Communism. Come to think of it- they can't define Capitalism either.


Haw, haw, haw, maw....................................haw.

They've never seen a political spectrum either. They think fascism is leftist. There should be some sort of basic competency test for participating in political forums.

 

[Matt Dillon]

Fraud ? Sound familiar ?

Why not just leave them alone and let them sell their oil to whoever they like ?
They are socialists- you are capitalists. War and assassinations are not going to turn them into obedient consumers.



Troll gate open. See how their head-muscles function.

How's the quality of life for the average citizen there?

 

[Matt Dillon]

As if Joey Buttafuocco isn't a ridiculous name!?

Oh! You can't blame that on America. That's an Italian name.

 

[Tranquillus in Exile]

You are saying that sanctions were applied as a result of people suffering economic crisis.

Nope, the UN Commissioner for Human Rights said that.

I added that the first sanctions were targeted at the individuals responsible for the crisis (and btw, those sanctions were imposed by - among others - the blameless EU).

 

[Cypress]

Venezuela is a flawed democracy.

So is our democracy for that matter.

EU observers reported that there were improvements in this years Venezuelan election, but there are still some structural obstacles to opposition parties.

Naturally, we have no moral right to interfere with their domestic affairs. But for the sake of protecting world democracy, it doesn't hurt to have international observers on the scene to report out what is going on. I wouldn't even complain if reputable international observers watched American elections, because our democracy has problems too

 

[Matt Dillon]

What is an "at-will employment doctrine?"

Daniel gets a check and spends it at the washy washy then wonders why the girls don't do it for free because he gets the money for free.

That's my observation. If he wanted to work he could get a job and not be broke after next weekend until the next 1st of the next month.

Yes, I have seen poverty. Have never really experienced it as I am an able-bodied worker in America.

I've been out of money before, sure, but always survived.

 

[moon]

How's the quality of life for the average citizen there?

According to who ?

There are over 40 million Americans living in poverty.

 

[moon]

Nope, the UN Commissioner for Human Rights said that.

You entered it in support of your own argument. You own it.

I added that the first sanctions were targeted at the individuals responsible for the crisis (and btw, those sanctions were imposed by - among others - the blameless EU).

You don't know which individuals bore any responsibility for any ' crisis ' reported outside of Venezuela. Those that objected to American/British/Israeli hegemony were the ones targeted.
Again- your spiel consists of stitched canards.

 

[Matt Dillon]

According to who ?

There are over 40 million Americans living in poverty.

Poverty according to who?

I read a post here the other day that's ..accurate. The definition of poverty in America is different today than it was in 1964. If you're starving in America today, you're clearly doing it wrong.

Personally I think Johnson was wrong. Rewarding people for doing nothing has led to them breeding and multiplying the amount of people that do nothing but eat.
Do you think millions of illegal aliens will help or hinder those people to rise out of poverty?

 

[Matt Dillon]

According to who ?

There are over 40 million Americans living in poverty.

Compare them to those in Venezuelan poverty. In poverty in America doesn't mean you're starving to death. Not since 1964.

I think it was a mistake.

 

[moon]

Compare them to those in Venezuelan poverty. In poverty in America doesn't mean you're starving to death. Not since 1964.

I think it was a mistake.

Investigation of a year’s worth of data reveals the scale of America’s hunger and food insecurity crisis during a year of Covid-19



Black families in the US have gone hungry at two to three times the rate of white families over the course of the pandemic, according to new analysis which suggests political squabbling over Covid aid exacerbated a crisis that left millions of children without enough to eat.

An investigation into food poverty by the Guardian and the Institute for Policy Research (IPR) at Northwestern University found gaping racial inequalities in access to adequate nutrition that threatens the long-term prospects of a generation of Black and brown children.

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ow-children-and-people-of-color-suffered-most

It's easy to solve- apply sanctions to the individuals responsible.......

haw, haw..........................haw..........

...then apply sanctions to the people that object.............


haw, haw.................................haw.................

...then conjure up a new puppet president ................

haw, haw.......................................haw....

....back him militarily ............................


haw, haw......................................haw


..................then drop food parcels to the people , paid for by military/industrial profits

Haw, haw, haw, haw....................................haw.


So- which Americans should the world sanction first ? Blame them for the millions of destitute Americans.

 

[BattleofHodow]

Oh! You can't blame that on America. That's an Italian name.

Right, Nifty is Italian.