Top Ten States In COVID Deaths Per Million

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Blackcat13th
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Hello McRocket,



We can't write people off because they are immunocompromised. We can save them. We must.

That is why all healthy people who face little risk from COVID should get vaccinated even if they don't need to. They should do it for those who are immunocompromised. Because when they get exposed to it, they could die.

Vaccination is just like masking. We do it to protect others as well as ourselves. If we don't get COVID-19 then we cannot pass it on. That shuts down pathways for the disease. Even if we do get it, it probably won't last as long. Then we the vaccinated, will infect fewer others.

Then why are you not starting a thread calling on every American to get immunized for the flu every year?
When up to 60,000 Americans die from it each flu season?
https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-people-die-flu/

And why are we not making it illegal to smoke cigarettes to protect people from lung cancer?

And why are we not making it illegal to sell any foods that are potentially bad for your heart to obese people?
Since 650+K die in America every year from cardiac problems.
https://www.cdc.gov/heartdisease/facts.htm

(NONE of which I agree with - BTW)
 
Even a better reason to get the vaccine.

That does not make sense.

If every American got the vaccine?
Even the CDC admits at least 3,000 people would die strictly from the vaccine.
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/co...s-08-09-21/h_9c6a79bada1c3b54c7d873635394a789
(second paragraph - 1,507 deaths from 165 million vaccines)

And since it is a fact that almost everyone whom dies of Covid is either old and/or has underlying conditions?

That means that by forcing everyone to get vaccines?
That could result in thousands of Americans getting killed by a vaccine to a disease that the vast, VAST majority of them will never die of.

Why on Earth would I take a vaccine that could kill me - if I do not need it?
 
Hello McRocket,

Then why are you not starting a thread calling on every American to get immunized for the flu every year?
When up to 60,000 Americans die from it each flu season?
https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-people-die-flu/

And why are we not making it illegal to smoke cigarettes to protect people from lung cancer?

And why are we not making it illegal to sell any foods that are potentially bad for your heart to obese people?
Since 650+K die in America every year from cardiac problems.
https://www.cdc.gov/heartdisease/facts.htm

(NONE of which I agree with - BTW)

None of which are part of this discussion.
None of which are part of a pandemic which threatens to overwhelm our health care system, rendering it compromised for all other health care needs of the public.
Those are old issues that we have learned to live with.

And what is stopping you from making those threads?
If you want to see threads discussing those different subjects, you are totally free to create them.

This thread is looking at the states where things are the worst in the pandemic, and examining how different approaches have yielded different results.

It looks like Republican state policies generally kill more people.

Life expectancy in those states has dropped because they are doing a bad job of protecting the public. They are not promoting the general welfare. They are not protecting the right of the people to be secure in their person.

Establishing policy that gets people killed is unconstitutional. People have a right to live.
 
That does not make sense.

Sure it does. If, as you or another poster pointed out, the 53,000 deaths were mostly people with underlying conditions, then having one of those conditions would make it more important to get vaccinated. 3,000 deaths from the vaccine is better than 53,000 deaths caused by the virus.
 
Hello Walt,

The party of trump will believe any lie that makes their failed ideology work.

They think they have 'alternate facts.'

There is no such thing. It is a mass delusion.

They are weak. They are insecure. The thought of isolating scares them to death. They simply have to mix and mingle with others because it makes them feel secure. They don't think the pandemic will ever be over. They can't wait it out. They have to pretend it is a hoax, pretend it's not so bad. They don't want to think about all the people dying. It's not happening to them so they don't care. They can't lift a finger to protect others. The thought of distancing and wearing a mask to protect others is too much to ask of them.

It's totally political. People who have gotten vaccines all their life, for all kinds of diseases, suddenly won't take this one, because Democrats are saying they should. Whatever Biden says to do, they are determined to do the opposite.

They don't care how many people die. Until it hits home or close to them, they will remain defiant. It's not really about the vaccines. It's about defiance. They have consumed so much propaganda they are more loyal to the Republican party than they are to the United States of America.

It is an incredibly pathetic party which has duped millions into actually hurting the United States in return for party power to be subservient to the super-rich.
 
Hello Walt,

No such thing as "alternate facts." There are facts, and not facts.

They think that: Since we actually pay attention to the main method that news has been disseminated as long as news had been broadcasted, that we are 'being duped.' (This would, ironically, be the same news both sides listened to back when 'America was great again' the best we can figure, since Trump never once explained exactly what that means.)

They think people should disbelieve the main stream news. Entertainment talk pundits tell them so. And, of course, the same entertainment talk pundits (who sell Millions in advertising and become Obscenely rich doing it) are where they should get their understanding of the world, instead of the main stream news, which they call 'fake.'

This is loopy-land aluminum foil hat extreme stuff, wink wink, nod nod, and it has always been there, but has become extremely prevalent since Trump. He made it 'OK' to call CNN 'fake news,' he made it 'OK' to be insulting and condescending. So now we have a whole party of people who behave like extremists.

Extremism has become mainstreamed. Now it is causing violence. Trump and hatred. That is why we had the Infamous January 6th Insurrection. And that is why COVID is so bad. Because they think if you do what you can to protect other Americans, that you have 'been duped' and you have 'given up your freedom.'

When Trump hijacked the Republican party, he threw away their morals. The party morals are now the morals of a man who has no morals.
 
1 Mississippi 3,479
2 Alabama 3,328
3 New Jersey 3,227
4 Louisiana 3,209
5 Arizona 3,207
6 New York 3,031
7 Arkansas 2,953
8 Georgia 2,911
9 Florida 2,896
10 West Virginia 2,881

USA Overall: 2,470


Are you seeing red?

Wow! All those dead TrumpTards six feet under no longer can vote for Trump. What a shame. Looks like the 2022 mid-terms may be closer than expected.

Can you smell the irony?
 
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