Democratic party has turned its back on the working class

Stone said:
A ton. WAY more than you would thing. And most do work 50 weeks a year with all the overtime they can get. Right now a run of the mill brick layer just working at a company and not for himself is making anywhere from 35 to 40 bucks an hour with a bennies package that would choke a horse. Thats around 75 grand a year not counting all the over time they can get ranging anywhere from time and a half to double time and up to triple time.

Alot of guys in the trades dont take the overtime though because their phones ring off the hooks from everybody and his brother wanted them to do side jobs where they do light years better than overtime and the customer pays in benji's.
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I'm in the trades. I know quite a few union workers. Some stay busy, and many don't, depending upon the weather, or availability of projects. Your anecdotes might represent some regions, while others are very different.
 
Althea said:
I'm in the trades. I know quite a few union workers. Some stay busy, and many don't, depending upon the weather, or availability of projects. Your anecdotes might represent some regions, while others are very different.
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What part of the country are you in? The pic in your avatar almost looks upper midwest to me but I could be wrong.
 
anonymoose said:
Not WOKE. Working people are apparently not oppressed , therefore rayciss. That's why they vote republican.
Well , the dims have their voting bloc and that's the oppressed, the homeless, violent criminals, felons and hollywierd.
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This is where it backfires on the Woke. Most of the people they let illegally into this country are conservative. They have come here to escape shit that democrats are trying to do because they know how it ends. democrats are actually cutting their own throats.
 
Stone said:
What part of the country are you in? The pic in your avatar almost looks upper midwest to me but I could be wrong.
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The picture of my cat lounging behind my tomato plants looks like the Midwest?

I'm in the Northeast. When the union carpenters upstate try to travel to the city to get work out of a different hall, they are reprimanded by the union. I know some guys who are very busy, and I know some where it's hit and miss.
 
Althea said:
Every corporation has increased profits by opting for cheap overseas labor, as well as lax enviro laws. What started as a response to unions getting greedy, has festered into the status quo for business. Offshoring has been very profitable.

We now see record profits, record share prices, record sums of cash held by corporations, and a record divide between CEO pay and labor pay.

The argument in this thread is about Democrats not supporting the working class. Which party, or which states have rammed through 'right to work' laws?

Which party is actively busting unions?

Which party rammed through a tax giveaway to corporations that do nothing to increase jobs, increase pay, or lower prices?

Which party represents the Heartland, where the cheap labor you reference above is most prevalent?
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Which Party is attempting to limit Importation of Third World Labor?

Outsourcing to Asia the Labor component of Manufacturing may be impractical/implausible.
Stopping Automation from taking Human Jobs will not stop.
Stopping Importation of Third World Labor from entering the country is easy.

This seems like a No-Brainer. Trump seized on to it. (Even as his Clothing Line comes from China)
 
Jack said:
Which Party is attempting to limit Importation of Third World Labor?

Outsourcing to Asia the Labor component of Manufacturing may be impractical/implausible.
Stopping Automation from taking Human Jobs will not stop.
Stopping Importation of Third World Labor from entering the country is easy.

This seems like a No-Brainer. Trump seized on to it. (Even as his Clothing Line comes from China)
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You continue to avoid the pertinent question.

Which is expected. You cannot back your generalizations with data.
 
Stone said:
Some of these elitist thinking imbeciles are a sight to behold. Meanwhile the Iron worker across town makes more money, has a better house, owns a vacation home, drives better cars, better 401, more vacation,...ect ect. :laugh:
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That sounds like the epitome of today's republican voter (Not saying that's good or bad of course). Opposite of WOKE.
 
Althea said:
Nonsense. Historically, Republicans looked the other way when immigrants came here to work the fields.

No Republican ever cites jobs when bashing immigrants. They, like trump, consider them rapists.

In '13, the Senate passed (68-32) a comprehensive immigration bill that Boehner refused to bring to a vote. Then Ryan refused to bring it to a vote. Both knew it was going to pass.

Why won't Republicans allow the issue of immigration to begin the process of being improved?

Because they need people like yourself to have the ability to spread falsehoods on the internet.

You think the bulk of big farm owners are Democrats?
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:) Republicans are Capitalists. Democrats are Capitalists.

So (other than Bernie) who represents the Working Class?

NEITHER.

Trump, as a Snake Oil Salesman, at least has enough smarts to tell the Working Class what they want to hear.
 
Jack said:
:) Republicans are Capitalists. Democrats are Capitalists.

So (other than Bernie) who represents the Working Class?

NEITHER.

Trump, as a Snake Oil Salesman, at least has enough smarts to tell the Working Class what they want to hear.
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Keep your eye on the ball. You keep swinging and missing.

Tell us exactly what Democrats are doing wrong, and then tell us exactly what Bernie has done for the working class.

Agree about trump, but you are peddling most of his lies.
 
Althea said:
You continue to avoid the pertinent question.

Which is expected. You cannot back your generalizations with data.
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'Perception is Reality'.

First World Workers are being clobbered with three obstacles.

AUTOMATION. There's no stopping this. More Human Jobs will be done by Machines.
OUTSOURCING. Cheap Labor means cheaper prices for Consumers, Cheap Labor means MORE profits for Shareholders.
IMPORTATION OF CHEAP LABOR. Ever watch the Movie 'Chinatown'? --->"If you can't bring the Water to L.A., ... bring L.A. to the Water".
 
Jack said:
'Perception is Reality'.

First World Workers are being clobbered with three obstacles.

AUTOMATION. There's no stopping this. More Human Jobs will be done by Machines.
OUTSOURCING. Cheap Labor means cheaper prices for Consumers, Cheap Labor means MORE profits for Shareholders.
IMPORTATION OF CHEAP LABOR. Ever watch the Movie 'Chinatown'? --->"If you can't bring the Water to L.A., ... bring L.A. to the Water".
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I see why some here don't care much for you. I never noticed this level of nonsense from you.

What has Bernie Sanders done for the working class?
 
Althea said:
Keep your eye on the ball. You keep swinging and missing.

Tell us exactly what Democrats are doing wrong, and then tell us exactly what Bernie has done for the working class.

Agree about trump, but you are peddling most of his lies.
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:) My position is winning the Working Class as a Voting Bloc. In my view, it is being overlooked. Republicans (never a friend to the Working Class) has seen this and made a political calculation.
Their Bumper Sticker slogan of 'Build the Wall' was effective in putting Trump in Office.
Now, even though Trump had a Republican Congress the first 2 years, the 'Wall' was never a great issue, 'Tax Cuts for the Wealthy' was.
Then, when Democrats took the Congress, the 'Wall' became an issue again: "We want to build the Wall ... but the Democrats won't let us".

There are a number of reasons I have for supporting 'No Immigration'. One is the Political consideration of being labeled 'Open Borders'. Another great 'Bumper Sticker' slogan that Republicans seem good at developing.
 
Althea said:
I see why some here don't care much for you. I never noticed this level of nonsense from you.

What has Bernie Sanders done for the working class?
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:) Althea! (PS. I'm not here to make friends)

Bernie supports a $15 Minimum wage.
Bernie supports a national health care system.

Do you think the Working Class threw their support towards Trump?
Why?
 
Jack said:
:) Althea! (PS. I'm not here to make friends)

Bernie supports a $15 Minimum wage.
Bernie supports a national health care system.

Do you think the Working Class threw their support towards Trump?
Why?
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Awesome. What has Bernie done for the working class?
 
Althea said:
Awesome. What has Bernie done for the working class?
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"Rep. Lee and Sen. Sanders Introduce Tax on Wall Street Speculation Act to Curb Greed
Washington, D.C. – Today, Representative Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) and Senator Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) introduced the Tax on Wall Street Speculation Act along with Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) and ten House Democrats.
The legislation imposes a tax of a fraction of a percent on the trades of stocks, bonds, and derivatives. This tax on Wall Street speculation, also known as a financial transaction tax, is estimated to generate up to $2.4 trillion in public revenue from wealthy investors over 10 years. An added benefit of the proposed tax is deterring the high-frequency trading that increases the instability of the financial sector and produces no economic value. "
https://lee.house.gov/news/press-re...on-wall-street-speculation-act-to-curb-greed-
 
Jack said:
"Rep. Lee and Sen. Sanders Introduce Tax on Wall Street Speculation Act to Curb Greed
Washington, D.C. – Today, Representative Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) and Senator Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) introduced the Tax on Wall Street Speculation Act along with Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) and ten House Democrats.
The legislation imposes a tax of a fraction of a percent on the trades of stocks, bonds, and derivatives. This tax on Wall Street speculation, also known as a financial transaction tax, is estimated to generate up to $2.4 trillion in public revenue from wealthy investors over 10 years. An added benefit of the proposed tax is deterring the high-frequency trading that increases the instability of the financial sector and produces no economic value. "
https://lee.house.gov/news/press-re...on-wall-street-speculation-act-to-curb-greed-
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What has he done?


Accomplished?
 
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