Whoopie suspended

Legion said:
Having ancestors who practiced Judaism does not make their descendants "Jews", no more than having ancestors who worshiped trees makes anyone a Druid.

Plenty of people have converted to Judaism, and they are Jews. People who renounce or don't practice Judaism aren't.

It was a Jew-hating German who popularized the concept of Jews as a "race" and brought the term "antisemitism" into widespread use.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/wilhelm-marr
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Thank you.
 
Legion said:
I even found a new avatar for 'Jew? No'.

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HA!!!!!!!
 
Sailor said:
From your link. Which has nothing to do with actual race by they way: " In 2016 Elhaik having reviewed the literature searching for a ‘Jüdische Typus’ argued that there is no genomic hallmark for Jewishness. While he allows that in the future it is possible that a ‘Jewish’ marker may turn up, so far, in his view, Jewishness turns out to be socially defined (a socionome), determined by non-genetic factors"
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Sailor said:
From your link. Which has nothing to do with actual race by they way: " In 2016 Elhaik having reviewed the literature searching for a ‘Jüdische Typus’ argued that there is no genomic hallmark for Jewishness. While he allows that in the future it is possible that a ‘Jewish’ marker may turn up, so far, in his view, Jewishness turns out to be socially defined (a socionome), determined by non-genetic factors"
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DNA tests have been used in Israel to verify a person’s Jewishness. This brings a bigger question: what does it mean to be genetically Jewish? And can you prove religious identity scientifically?

When my parents sent their saliva away to a genetic testing company late last year and were informed via email a few weeks later that they are both “100% Ashkenazi Jewish”, it struck me as slightly odd. Most people I know who have done DNA tests received ancestry results that correspond to geographical areas – Chinese, British, West African. Jewish, by comparison, is typically parsed as a religious or cultural identity. I wondered how this was traceable in my parents’ DNA.

After arriving in eastern Europe around a millennium ago, the company’s website explained, Jewish communities remained segregated, by force and by custom, mixing only occasionally with local populations. Isolation slowly narrowed the gene pool, which now gives modern Jews of European descent, like my family, a set of identifiable genetic variations that set them apart from other European populations at a microscopic level.

This genetic explanation of my Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry came as no surprise. According to family lore, my forebears lived in small towns and villages in eastern Europe for at least a few hundred years, where they kept their traditions and married within the community, up until the Holocaust, when they were either murdered or dispersed.

But still, there was something disconcerting about our Jewishness being “confirmed” by a biological test. After all, the reason my grandparents had to leave the towns and villages of their ancestors was because of ethno-nationalism emboldened by a racialized conception of Jewishness as something that exists “in the blood”.

The raw memory of this racism made any suggestion of Jewish ethnicity slightly taboo in my family. If I ever mentioned that someone “looked Jewish” my grandmother would respond, “Oh really? And what exactly does a Jew look like?” Yet evidently, this wariness of ethnic categorization didn’t stop my parents from sending swab samples from the inside of their cheeks off to a direct-to-consumer genetic testing company. The idea of having an ancient identity “confirmed” by modern science was too alluring.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/jun/12/what-does-it-mean-to-be-genetically-jewish

Ask Matt Dillon what Jews look like. :dunno:
 
Of course it's likely BS and a stunt.

Honestly do you think you're brilliant for coming up with those thoughts and think they're original? :palm:
 
AProudLefty said:
Of course it's likely BS and a stunt.

Honestly do you think you're brilliant for coming up with those thoughts and think they're original? :palm:
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Agreed it's bullshit but doubt it's a stunt. This is ABC rolling over for the Karens.
 
isn't it odd that it was practically a demand to fire and cancel everything about roseanne barr for a tweet, but now they want to raise hell about suspending whoopie for a public, on the air, statement???????
 
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