The End For Electric Cars? VW Develops New Hydrogen Tech: 2,000 Km On A Single Tank

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This looks promising, it looks like hydrogen fuel call techology may finally come of age.

VW may have developed a major hydrogen breakthrough…cars could travel 2000 km on a single tank of fuel. VW often rails against hydrogen cars, but the German automaker is reported to have filed a patent that could mean a major breakthrough for hydrogen powered vehicles, reports Patrick Freiwa of the German Kreiszeitung here. Though the latest trend has been electric cars, these have also a number of technical drawbacks like range, cost, mining and weight. Moreover there is also the problem of how to dispose of millions of tons of batteries at the end of their lives.

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Despite VW having railed against hydrogen technology for cars, the automaker has “filed a patent for a special fuel cell with the Saxon company Kraftwerk Tubes GmbH,” thus making it clear that the auto giant is indeed pushing hydrogen technology. With the new technology from VW, the company looks to set itself apart from the rest of the field, which has focused on fuel cell technology.

According to the Kreiszeitung: “The main difference to the fuel cells of Hyundai and Toyota is that VW has set on a ceramic diaphragm instead of the usual plastic diaphragm and is the only manufacturer of this technology that produces the ceramic membrane in such a way that the fuel cell can be started quickly.” The advantages are lower production costs and the elimination of platinum.

Up to 2000 km range
“The target for the breakthrough of this form of mobility is considered to be the so-called solid-state cell battery,” reports the Kreiszeitung. VW predicts shorter refueling times with the innovative technology. “We can travel up to 2,000 kilometers on a single tank of fuel,” says the VW engineer Sascha Kuhn. If true, electric cars will be left in the dust.

https://notrickszone.com/2022/04/12...-technology-2000-km-on-a-single-tank-of-fuel/
 
Primavera said:
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This looks promising, it looks like hydrogen fuel call techology may finally come of age.

VW may have developed a major hydrogen breakthrough…cars could travel 2000 km on a single tank of fuel. VW often rails against hydrogen cars, but the German automaker is reported to have filed a patent that could mean a major breakthrough for hydrogen powered vehicles, reports Patrick Freiwa of the German Kreiszeitung here. Though the latest trend has been electric cars, these have also a number of technical drawbacks like range, cost, mining and weight. Moreover there is also the problem of how to dispose of millions of tons of batteries at the end of their lives.

Files patent
Despite VW having railed against hydrogen technology for cars, the automaker has “filed a patent for a special fuel cell with the Saxon company Kraftwerk Tubes GmbH,” thus making it clear that the auto giant is indeed pushing hydrogen technology. With the new technology from VW, the company looks to set itself apart from the rest of the field, which has focused on fuel cell technology.

According to the Kreiszeitung: “The main difference to the fuel cells of Hyundai and Toyota is that VW has set on a ceramic diaphragm instead of the usual plastic diaphragm and is the only manufacturer of this technology that produces the ceramic membrane in such a way that the fuel cell can be started quickly.” The advantages are lower production costs and the elimination of platinum.

Up to 2000 km range
“The target for the breakthrough of this form of mobility is considered to be the so-called solid-state cell battery,” reports the Kreiszeitung. VW predicts shorter refueling times with the innovative technology. “We can travel up to 2,000 kilometers on a single tank of fuel,” says the VW engineer Sascha Kuhn. If true, electric cars will be left in the dust.

https://notrickszone.com/2022/04/12...-technology-2000-km-on-a-single-tank-of-fuel/
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How much would a fill-up cost?
 
Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles aren’t likely to catch up to EVs. MAGA wets panties.
A new study published in the peer-reviewed journal Nature has confirmed what common sense has made clear for years: Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles aren’t likely to catch up to battery-electric vehicles – even for commercial trucks.

The auto industry has been divided on solutions to remove emissions from their products.

Most have been betting on battery-electric vehicles(BEV), but a few automakers have insisted on trying to make fuel cell hydrogen powertrains work.

Toyota, Hyundai, and GM have been the most resistant in giving up on the technology, which also can achieve zero-emission transport, but it is much less efficient than BEVs.

For passenger cars, it’s already game over for fuel cells (FCEV).

Some of the biggest FCEV programs in the world, like the Toyota Mirai and Hyundai Nexo, have failed to gain any reactions after years and billions invested in them.

Aside from the full energy cycle of FCEVs being so much less efficient (three times less efficient, as shown in the chart below), the infrastructure seems to be the main problem.

MAGA wets panties
 
Primavera said:
Need to keep a watchful eye out for this in future.
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Definitely.

On a related note, we don't have enough green electricity to power our homes. Now the white libs want to burden the grid further with cars powered by electricity.

And the White libs have no condemnation for the largest coal burners, China and India. The racist left gives them a pass ... because they are NOT white. :palm:
 
Joe Capitalist said:
Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles aren’t likely to catch up to EVs. MAGA wets panties.
A new study published in the peer-reviewed journal Nature has confirmed what common sense has made clear for years: Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles aren’t likely to catch up to battery-electric vehicles – even for commercial trucks.

The auto industry has been divided on solutions to remove emissions from their products.

Most have been betting on battery-electric vehicles(BEV), but a few automakers have insisted on trying to make fuel cell hydrogen powertrains work.

Toyota, Hyundai, and GM have been the most resistant in giving up on the technology, which also can achieve zero-emission transport, but it is much less efficient than BEVs.

For passenger cars, it’s already game over for fuel cells (FCEV).

Some of the biggest FCEV programs in the world, like the Toyota Mirai and Hyundai Nexo, have failed to gain any reactions after years and billions invested in them.

Aside from the full energy cycle of FCEVs being so much less efficient (three times less efficient, as shown in the chart below), the infrastructure seems to be the main problem.

MAGA wets panties
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Back in the 70's when pollution controls first started to be put on cars, all the manufacturers bet on catalytic converters and adding controls to existing engine technology. Honda invented a new engine that produced less pollution without those controls. That became the standard a decade later. Of course, pollution controls have tightened since and required more fixes, but the idea remains the best solution isn't always the one early adopters choose.

In the case of battery cars, most manufacturers don't want to deal with fuel cells that still require considerable R&D. Going the battery route eliminates the cost of research as it's a pretty well established system. Doesn't matter if that system is inefficient or costly to the buyer, only that it isn't to the manufacturer.

If government started subsidizing fuel cell technology the way they've subsidized battery cars, nobody would be building battery cars either...
 
Joe Capitalist said:
Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles aren’t likely to catch up to EVs. MAGA wets panties.
A new study published in the peer-reviewed journal Nature has confirmed what common sense has made clear for years: Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles aren’t likely to catch up to battery-electric vehicles – even for commercial trucks.

The auto industry has been divided on solutions to remove emissions from their products.

Most have been betting on battery-electric vehicles(BEV), but a few automakers have insisted on trying to make fuel cell hydrogen powertrains work.

Toyota, Hyundai, and GM have been the most resistant in giving up on the technology, which also can achieve zero-emission transport, but it is much less efficient than BEVs.

For passenger cars, it’s already game over for fuel cells (FCEV).

Some of the biggest FCEV programs in the world, like the Toyota Mirai and Hyundai Nexo, have failed to gain any reactions after years and billions invested in them.

Aside from the full energy cycle of FCEVs being so much less efficient (three times less efficient, as shown in the chart below), the infrastructure seems to be the main problem.

MAGA wets panties
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I want to see how far an electric truck can pull an 80,000 lb. load up a hill...
 
Primavera said:
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This looks promising, it looks like hydrogen fuel call techology may finally come of age.

VW may have developed a major hydrogen breakthrough…cars could travel 2000 km on a single tank of fuel. VW often rails against hydrogen cars, but the German automaker is reported to have filed a patent that could mean a major breakthrough for hydrogen powered vehicles, reports Patrick Freiwa of the German Kreiszeitung here. Though the latest trend has been electric cars, these have also a number of technical drawbacks like range, cost, mining and weight. Moreover there is also the problem of how to dispose of millions of tons of batteries at the end of their lives.

Files patent
Despite VW having railed against hydrogen technology for cars, the automaker has “filed a patent for a special fuel cell with the Saxon company Kraftwerk Tubes GmbH,” thus making it clear that the auto giant is indeed pushing hydrogen technology. With the new technology from VW, the company looks to set itself apart from the rest of the field, which has focused on fuel cell technology.

According to the Kreiszeitung: “The main difference to the fuel cells of Hyundai and Toyota is that VW has set on a ceramic diaphragm instead of the usual plastic diaphragm and is the only manufacturer of this technology that produces the ceramic membrane in such a way that the fuel cell can be started quickly.” The advantages are lower production costs and the elimination of platinum.

Up to 2000 km range
“The target for the breakthrough of this form of mobility is considered to be the so-called solid-state cell battery,” reports the Kreiszeitung. VW predicts shorter refueling times with the innovative technology. “We can travel up to 2,000 kilometers on a single tank of fuel,” says the VW engineer Sascha Kuhn. If true, electric cars will be left in the dust.

https://notrickszone.com/2022/04/12...-technology-2000-km-on-a-single-tank-of-fuel/
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Volkswagen. The Volkswagen brand says that battery EVs will be 70% of its sales in Europe in 2030, up from a projected 35%. For the U.S. and China, the VW brand goal is more than 50% full-electric vehicle sales by 2030.

https://www.forbes.com/wheels/news/...and says that,electric vehicle sales by 2030.
 
signalmankenneth said:
Volkswagen. The Volkswagen brand says that battery EVs will be 70% of its sales in Europe in 2030, up from a projected 35%. For the U.S. and China, the VW brand goal is more than 50% full-electric vehicle sales by 2030.

https://www.forbes.com/wheels/news/...and says that,electric vehicle sales by 2030.
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Can you read? From the article!

Files patent
Despite VW having railed against hydrogen technology for cars, the automaker has “filed a patent for a special fuel cell with the Saxon company Kraftwerk Tubes GmbH,” thus making it clear that the auto giant is indeed pushing hydrogen technology. With the new technology from VW, the company looks to set itself apart from the rest of the field, which has focused on fuel cell technology.
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Primavera said:
The only problem now is lack of filling stations, hopefully that will be solved soon enough as well.
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That, and making the hydrogen. Most is made from natural gas, so why not just use CNG for fuel? That technology has been around forever.
 
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