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The partisan composition of state legislatures refers to which political party holds the majority of seats in the State Senate and State House. Altogether, there are 1,972 state senators and 5,411 state representatives.

The breakdown of chamber control after the November 2021 election is as follows:

Democratic Party 36 chambers
Republican Party 62 chambers[1]
Democratic Party Republican Party One chamber with power sharing between the parties



It appears that lots of states will be revisiting Roe vs. Wade.


Overturning Roe is progress. Same sex marriage?
 
AProudLefty said:
No you don't get it. Some states already rushed to make any kind of abortion illegal that is punishable up to life in prison.

And overturning Roe is not a progress.
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And if that's so voters in those states can decide if that's the law they want to live under by voting for or against their state legislatures. Abortion laws are back in the hands of citizens as they should be.
 
Sawyerloggingon said:
The decision is a legal ruling and it specifically says:

"The majority contended that Friday’s ruling would not undermine other decisions by the court involving fundamental rights that the Constitution does not expressly mention, such as the right to contraception (Griswold v. Connecticut) and the rights to same-sex intimacy (Lawrence v. Texas) and marriage (Obergefell v. Hodges). Unlike those rights, Alito wrote, abortion terminates what Roe and Casey refer to as “potential life” and what the Mississippi law refers to as an “unborn human being.” “Nothing in this opinion,” Alito added later, “should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion.”


Anyone saying it pertains to marriage or birth control is a liar.
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Not this decision but if there is no right to privacy which the court says there isn’t then this ruling becomes precedent when a case involving those things reaches the court. They are entirely based on a right that no longer exists. There is absolutely no question that the court will take up those issues. And they will most likely ban aborttion in the entire country. Same sex marriage? It’s dead.

And as I mentioned they are all liars who swore under oath that Roe v Wade was precedent. They should be impeached.
 
Concart said:
Not this decision but if there is no right to privacy which the court says there isn’t then this ruling becomes precedent when a case involving those things reaches the court. They are entirely based on a right that no longer exists. There is absolutely no question that the court will take up those issues. And they will most likely ban aborttion in the entire country. Same sex marriage? It’s dead.

And as I mentioned they are all liars who swore under oath that Roe v Wade was precedent. They should be impeached.
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did someone pretend that precedents can't change?........happens all the time.....did you know it was once precedent that free states were required to return escaped slaves to their owners?......
 
Concart said:
Not this decision but if there is no right to privacy which the court says there isn’t then this ruling becomes precedent when a case involving those things reaches the court. They are entirely based on a right that no longer exists. There is absolutely no question that the court will take up those issues. And they will most likely ban aborttion in the entire country. Same sex marriage? It’s dead.

And as I mentioned they are all liars who swore under oath that Roe v Wade was precedent. They should be impeached.
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What the decision means is abortion doesn't fall under right to privacy and it explicitly excludes marriage and contraception. Hyperbole from the left on this ruling is nothing but politics.
 
AProudLefty said:
No you don't get it. Some states already rushed to make any kind of abortion illegal that is punishable up to life in prison.

And overturning Roe is not a progress.
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Unless you consider progress using the democratic method of letting the elected representatives of each state decide about abortion. If abortion is not a right then no right has been taken away from anybody.

You favor the right to abortion and favor any court interpretation that makes that happen. I also favor keeping abortion legal, but want to do it through the legislative process of each state rather than creating an constitutional right through convoluted reasoning. Certainly there is nothing in the Constitution creating abortion rights based on the trimester of pregnancy--that is simply made up by the Supreme Court.
 
Sawyerloggingon said:
What the decision means is abortion doesn't fall under right to privacy and it explicitly excludes marriage and contraception. Hyperbole from the left on this ruling is nothing but politics.
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False. Take a look at Thomas's decision. Apparently you aren't very well informed.
 
Flash said:
Unless you consider progress using the democratic method of letting the elected representatives of each state decide about abortion. If abortion is not a right then no right has been taken away from anybody.

You favor the right to abortion and favor any court interpretation that makes that happen. I also favor keeping abortion legal, but want to do it through the legislative process of each state rather than creating an constitutional right through convoluted reasoning. Certainly there is nothing in the Constitution creating abortion rights based on the trimester of pregnancy--that is simply made up by the Supreme Court.
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How is it convoluted reasoning? It was based on science. Banning abortions based on religion IS convoluted reasoning and is unconstitutional.
 
A majority of adults from Buddhist, Hindu, historically Black Protestant, Jewish, mainline Protestant, Muslim and Orthodox Christian faiths support legal abortion in all or most cases, according to a Pew Research Center’s Religious Landscape Study.
 
Sawyerloggingon said:
And if that's so voters in those states can decide if that's the law they want to live under by voting for or against their state legislatures. Abortion laws are back in the hands of citizens as they should be.
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Jim Crow laws should be back in the hands of citizens.
 
guno said:
A majority of adults from Buddhist, Hindu, historically Black Protestant, Jewish, mainline Protestant, Muslim and Orthodox Christian faiths support legal abortion in all or most cases, according to a Pew Research Center’s Religious Landscape Study.
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It doesn't matter to our resident christo-fascist peanut gallery. Also, they have yet to logically explain how a law that allowed CHOICE was unconstitutional? I've read NOTHING in the SCOTUS decision to explain that little head scratcher.
 
christiefan915 said:
Originally Posted by Sawyerloggingon View Post
It's up to individual states. SCOTUS did not make abortion illegal. Texas might make it illegal and California might make it mandatory. It's a state by state decision and back in the hands of the people.
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California might make it *mandatory?* WTH does that mean?
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He doesn't know, it's one of his mental flatulences....they tend to build up under that pointy hood. But since no such law exists or is being proposed, old Sawyer will log off logic, dodge and/or spew all types of blather in hopes that no one will notice his blunder.
 
AProudLefty said:
How is it convoluted reasoning? It was based on science. Banning abortions based on religion IS convoluted reasoning and is unconstitutional.
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But, it was not based on any constitutional provisions. Science is not the source of our law.

Laws against abortion have nothing to do with religion. Abortion might be against the religious beliefs of anti-abortion people, but so are murder, theft, rape, assault, etc. But, it is not unconstitutional to prohibit those crimes because they are against both political and religious beliefs. The law itself must be aimed at religion to violate the establishment clause, the religious beliefs of the voters is irrelevant. You beliefs are 100% protected.
 
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