AFTER it had originally been driven straight forward. HUGE difference when you are dealing with a second or two at most. You cant win this Martin.
A person is standing in front of a car...........
- Thread starter Stone
- Start date
That would be attempted murder, the difference is intent.
First Degree Murder requires that the person INTENDED to kill.
This is use of the law of negligent homicide. Fallacy is what Trumper normally employ among other stupidities in their resume.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
I gave you the legal definition of negligent homicide. That is what Good did in her attempt to flee the scene after knowing she was likely to be arrested. That she didn't succeed, doesn't change that it was attempted.
So, your inane second sentence aside, your first is oblivious to the facts.
But my main point here is what the ICE AGENT reasonably assumed was happening in those critical TWO SECONDS. If he had reason to assume his life was in danger from an imminent threat............THE SHOOTING WAS GOOD. And guess what? That is EXACTLY what happened on that day.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
<snicker>
Even though you are losing this,...quite badly I might add,...there is no reason to get nasty and call people names.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
<snicker>
I do not agree with your main point, additionally I believe even if your main point is true, that officer clearly put HIMSELF in that position, by leaning into the vehicle.
Thank you. I know the legal definition. Your first sentence is inane. No one is arguing she didn't attempt to flee. It was in that attempt that she negligently brushed or bumped the agent, if the car made contact with him at all. Had she killed him the criminal offense would have been negligent homicide. This should not be difficult even for a Trumper to grasp.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
True, and his reaction to what could be seen as negligent homicide was to defend himself with deadly force. So, you just admitted the shooting was justified.
If the ICE officer could reasonably assume his life was under imminent threat in those 2 seconds it took from the point she put it in drive and accelerated FORWARD then it means it was a good shooting. THAT is the issue here,....not what her intentions were because it is a FACT that it is impossible for ANYONE now to know what her intentions were. This was a GOOD shooting according to the letter of the law. For the record,...I think YOU KNOW THAT AS WELL.
volsrocks
Verified User
video analysis u could see that huh
could the agent see the way the wheels were turned in that SPLIT SECOND???????!!!!!!
That defense is not sensible. When in danger of being struck by a car mere inches in front of you the natural reaction is to step out of the way. The idea that you will save yourself by shooting the driver is asinine. There isn't time even if you have already drawn your weapon and aimed at the driver. The car is already in motion.
You have obvious difficulty with reading comprehension.
volsrocks
Verified User
could the agent see the way the wheels were turned in that SPLIT SECOND???????!!!!!!
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
It's the dementia. MAGAts only see what they want to see and dementia complicates that problem. Not a good way to go. Sad.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
<snicker>
First off, any police training stresses never stand in or behind a vehicle, your presence is not going to stop it7 to 10 feet in front of it. The driver guns the engine and drives forward slightly clipping them as the person standing attempts to dive out of the way. The person who was hit was slightly bruised but the driver of the car speeds off and gets away. Now here is the rub............there was also a person who was near enuff to have filmed the entire episode and turns it over to the police. What happens next? What happens is the police apprehend the perp and in all likelihood charge the driver with attempted murder through use of a vehicle.
I ask you.......if the LAW would consider it attempted murder WHAT THE FUCK do you think the person standing just 8 feet in front of the vehicle would consider it? They would reasonably consider it an imminent threat to their life and act accordingly.
BOOM!
Second, she didn’t gun any engine, and as the video shows, she was turning the steering wheel to the right and the tires were already aimed to the right, she wasn’t aiming for the officer
Third, the officer had moved off to the right when the vehicle moved, his bullets were fired from the right as indicated by their placement in the lower right side of the vehicle. In addition, he had his hand on his weapon ready to employ it even before the auto moved
Conclusion, the officer was shit in executing his duties and consequently a women is dead. Should he be charged, probably not, not enough convincing evidence in either direction to establish guilt. If anything was learned it is that Ice is poorly trained, on a mission they themselves don’t understand, and their deployment is purely political