Trump clears the Strait

Why does Iran even HAVE an air force if they are too afraid to even fly against us? Instead they chose the cowards way and just let theyre jets get blown apart on the ground, un flown. Better to die in the air fighting like men then to suffer the disgrace of having your craft destroyed on the ground. THAT............says A LOT. No way around it either. Pussies,...BIGTIME pussies.
 
Not flying your aircraft and letting them be blown up on the ground is absolutely the same thing as just laying down your weapon and surrendering without a fight. No way around it. THAT is Iran! :ROFLMAO:
 
Stone said:
Why does Iran even HAVE an air force if they are too afraid to even fly against us? Instead they chose the cowards way and just let theyre jets get blown apart on the ground, un flown. Better to die in the air fighting like men then to suffer the disgrace of having your craft destroyed on the ground. THAT............says A LOT. No way around it either. Pussies,...BIGTIME pussies.
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Did you say that when the United States let the Japanese destroy over 350 of their warplanes on the ground in 1941?
 
Stone said:
Not even close to what happened. The U.S put quite a few planes in the air that day.
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During the attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, Japanese forces destroyed 188 U.S. military aircraft on the ground and damaged another 159. The vast majority of these losses occurred in the initial stages of the attack, which caught the aircraft parked in rows on airfields, making them easy targets for Japanese strafing and bombing.

Breakdown of Pearl Harbor Airfield Losses (Dec 7, 1941):
  • U.S. Navy: Approximately 92 planes destroyed.
  • U.S. Army Air Forces: Approximately 77–78 planes destroyed.
  • Damaged: Around 128 Army planes and 31 Navy planes were damaged.
Other Significant Ground Losses:
  • The Philippines: Approximately 9 hours after Pearl Harbor, Japanese aircraft attacked Clark Field and other bases, destroying about 100 additional US aircraft on the ground.
  • Total Initial Losses: Within the first two days of the war, Japan's air strikes destroyed over 300 American airplanes, with a large portion destroyed on the ground.
While Pearl Harbor was the most famous instance, the Japanese Air Force maintained a high success rate in destroying U.S. aircraft on the ground in the initial days of the Pacific War due to the surprise nature of their attacks and the concentration of American aircraft at airfields.

Stone said:
The Iranians are pussies, you cant hide that FACT.
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Sneak attacks have a way of succeeding.
 
Stone said:
1941 and 2026 are light years away. Radar was in its infancy. Apples to oranges DUMB Iranian.
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The incoming Japanese were spotted on radar.

On the morning of December 7, 1941, the first wave of Japanese aircraft was detected on radar roughly 50 to 60 minutes before the attack began, but the warning was dismissed.

Here are the key details of the incident:
  • The Detection: At 7:02 a.m., Pvt. George Elliott Jr. and Pvt. Joseph Lockard, operating the new SCR-270 radar at the Opana Radar Site on the northern tip of Oahu, detected a large "blip" on their screen, indicating a large flight of aircraft approaching from the north.
  • The Report: The operators tracked the incoming planes and, at 7:06 a.m., reported the sighting to the Intercept Center at Fort Shafter.
  • The Dismissal: Lieutenant Kermit Tyler, who was in charge at the time, believed the signal was a scheduled flight of U.S. B-17 bombers arriving from California. He instructed the operators not to worry about it.
  • The Outcome: The radar contact was lost at 7:39 a.m. due to the aircraft disappearing into the mountain terrain of Oahu. At 7:55 a.m., the Japanese attack began.
 
Iranian navy= GONE
Iranian Air force= Gone
Iranian air defenses= Gone
Iranian Nuke facilities= GONE

Fact is,...what took Iran DECADES and billions of dollars to build the U.S took away from them in mere DAYS. Like babies really,.....candy from a baby . :ROFLMAO: FACTS and REALITY are a beautiful thing.

:magagrin:
 
Stone said:
Not even close to what happened. The U.S put quite a few planes in the air that day. The Iranians are pussies, you cant hide that FACT.
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You appear to be misinformed.

Very few U.S. warplanes were able to scramble in response to the Japanese attacks on Pearl Harbor and the Philippines on December 7–8, 1941, as the majority of U.S. aircraft were destroyed or damaged on the ground during the initial raids.
Pearl Harbor (December 7, 1941)
  • Scrambled Aircraft: Only a handful of U.S. fighter planes—roughly 8 to 14—managed to take off during the attack.
  • Defense Efforts: These few P-40 and P-36 fighters from Wheeler Field and Haleiwa were credited with shooting down at least 11 Japanese planes.
  • Total Losses: The attack destroyed 188 U.S. aircraft and damaged another 159, with many hit while parked wingtip-to-wingtip.
The Philippines (December 8, 1941, local time)
  • Scrambled Aircraft: On the first day of the attack, several U.S. pursuit squadrons scrambled to patrol Manila Bay and Bataan following initial warnings. However, at Clark Field, the main base, most planes were caught on the ground during refueling.
  • Defense Efforts: Despite initial failures to locate the enemy, U.S. P-40 fighters were able to shoot down several Japanese Zeros.
  • Total Losses: Nearly 100 U.S. aircraft—roughly half of the Far East Air Force strength on Luzon—were destroyed in the first day.
The surprise attacks on both locations were highly successful in destroying American airpower on the ground before it could be effectively deployed.

The Iranian Air Force (IRIAF) failed to respond to the Feb. 28, 2026, strikes due to successful Israeli and US suppression of enemy air defenses (SEAD), which destroyed planes on the ground, destroyed radar systems, and established total air superiority. Iran's aging fleet also lacked the capacity to challenge modern stealth fighters.

Key factors influencing the lack of response included:
  • Destruction on the Ground: Initial strikes during "Operation Epic Fury" and "Operation Roaring Lion" targeted Iranian airfields, crippling the IRIAF before aircraft could scramble.
  • Air Defense Suppression: Israeli strikes targeted radar systems and command centers, limiting Iran's ability to track threats and manage their own airspace.
  • Aging Infrastructure: The Iranian air force relies on, and has limited ability to maintain, 45-year-old airframes, rendering much of the fleet not airworthy.
 
Stone said:
Iranian navy= GONE
Iranian Air force= Gone
Iranian air defenses= Gone
Iranian Nuke facilities= GONE

Fact is,...what took Iran DECADES and billions of dollars to build the U.S took away from them in mere DAYS. Like babies really,.....candy from a baby . :ROFLMAO:
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I was assured our facilities were completely obliterated last year, too.

www.whitehouse.gov

Iran’s Nuclear Facilities Have Been Obliterated — and Suggestions Otherwise are Fake News

The world is far safer after President Donald J. Trump’s highly successful, decisive precision strikes against the Iranian regime’s key nuclear
www.whitehouse.gov www.whitehouse.gov
 
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