Seattle Also Elects A Socialist Mayor

cawacko said:
I'll offer an example from SF. In 2020 I believe Chesa Boudin became D.A. He was well known as his parents were members of the Weather Underground. He was elected on a progressive platform including holding cops more accountable and putting less people in jail.

Within three years he was recalled because crime increased and people felt unsafe. Boudin called out people in City for turning to the right and falling for right-wing fear tactics.

So I'm not speaking about the theoretical debate over whether police officers should answer domestic violence calls. I'm speaking about how they speak about crime on the campaign trail and then how they handle it while in office.

In urban areas there is often a split between more moderates and progressives/dsa on this topic.
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Obviously I know nothing about SF politics, however I did read about the Harvey Milk shooting and the Twinkies defense, and as I believe I mentioned to you once before, the city suffers from schizophrenia, it values its freedom reputation but also laments on the problems the Tenderloin section presents

And I can’t say I recall any DA candidate moderate or progressive running on deliberately putting less people in jail

When it comes to local offices, ideology matters less, I don’t think Mamdani got elected because he declared himself a democratic socialist as it was because he was talking kitchen table issues, often unrealistically, but still something New Yorkers wanted to hear
 
T. A. Gardner said:
That's true, but the state has a serious level of control over them. From what employees have to be paid, to what and how they can produce, to being heavily taxed to support the social-welfare state.

This was the model in Nazi Germany. It is the model in China today. It is Statist Capitalism.
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Some day you should read history. You know very little.
 
archives said:
Obviously I know nothing about SF politics, however I did read about the Harvey Milk shooting and the Twinkies defense, and as I believe I mentioned to you once before, the city suffers from schizophrenia, it values its freedom reputation but also laments on the problems the Tenderloin section presents

And I can’t say I recall any DA candidate moderate or progressive running on deliberately putting less people in jail

When it comes to local offices, ideology matters less, I don’t think Mamdani got elected because he declared himself a democratic socialist as it was because he was talking kitchen table issues, often unrealistically, but still something New Yorkers wanted to hear
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When I mentioned policing I was giving an example of what often seperates more moderates from progressives/dsa in these local elections.

In NYC you had kind of a perfect storm of Cuomo being just a bad candidate (the ultimate irony is his legislation while Governor helping to increase housing costs in NYC) and Mamdani having a sort of 'it' factor and people wanting to believe he can make the city more affordable by things like freezing the rent.
 
archives said:
Democratic socialists have been around for quite awhile, in fact, one of NYC’s greatest mayors, a Republican, was a democratic socialist. It is not the Trotskyist ideology you right wingers like to portray it as
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Are you a democratic socialist?
 
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