Seattle Also Elects A Socialist Mayor

archives said:
Before we proceed you are aware that the US has been part socialist since the 19th Century, correct?

Now am I democratic socialist, I definitely lean left, and I do believe that it is the Government’s responsibility to acknowledge the needs of the unfortunate and certainly don’t think the “thousand points of light” or Invisible Hand is going to address the problem.
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Oh I dint disagree that this country is more socialist than not.

Calling it democratic socialism is just another euphemism devised by Marxists to hide their intent. It always ends the same way

You advocate confiscating people’s property to quench your own conscience. That you hide behind government doesn’t make it right. You can call it legal if it makes you feel better, but remember slavery was once kegal

Democracy is no better than dictatorship. It is merely tyranny of the majority.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I'm Buddhist and even I know Jesus never commanded any of that bullshit.
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Yes he did.

Example...

Matthew 10:8: When sending out the twelve apostles, Jesus commanded: "Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give."
 
countryboy said:
Lol, there's no such thing as a "Democratic socialist", it's a contradiction in terms.
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Socialism is not a form of government, that is true. It does, however, generally depend on being implemented by force, since people don't like their wealth stolen.

Thus it is implemented generally go dictatorship or oligarchy.

Democrats label both of these types of government as 'democracy'.

A democracy is an unstable form of government. Sooner or later (usually sooner!) one faction will gain control, and the democracy dissolves into oligarchy or dictatorship (Athens became a dictatorship).

The United States was never a democracy. There are no democracies currently anywhere on Earth.
The United States is and always has been a federated republic.
 
archives said:
Before we proceed you are aware that the US has been part socialist since the 19th Century, correct?
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Slavery, communism, fascism, and capitalism all exist in the United States. This is true of any nation in the world, even brutal dictatorships.
Slavery, communism, and fascism are all forms of socialism. ALL are based on theft of wealth.

Capitalism is the only system that CREATES wealth. Indeed, socialism cannot exist without capitalism nearby to steal wealth from. Once socialism runs out of places to steal from, it collapses.
archives said:
Now am I democratic socialist,
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An oligarchy is not democracy, anchovies.
archives said:
I definitely lean left, and I do believe that it is the Government’s responsibility to acknowledge the needs of the unfortunate and certainly don’t think the “thousand points of light” or Invisible Hand is going to address the problem.
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Government is your 'invisible hand'. You advocate socialism. You advocate communism. You advocate theft of wealth.
 
Teflon Don said:
Oh I dint disagree that this country is more socialist than not.

Calling it democratic socialism is just another euphemism devised by Marxists to hide their intent. It always ends the same way

You advocate confiscating people’s property to quench your own conscience. That you hide behind government doesn’t make it right. You can call it legal if it makes you feel better, but remember slavery was once kegal

Democracy is no better than dictatorship. It is merely tyranny of the majority.
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Quite right.

A democracy is government by popular vote. This form of government has no constitution, and no representatives. Sooner or later (usually sooner), one faction gains and keeps control. It is literally mob rule. Thus, a democracy is an unstable form of government. It usually dissolves into an oligarchy (dictatorship by committee), or dictatorship (rule by individual...a king).

Athens dissolved into a dictatorship.

He is advocating theft of wealth to 'equally distribute' wealth, with of course government taking a hefty cut off the top first!

He confuses this tyranny with charity, which is completely voluntary.
Communism is involuntary. Charity is. That's the difference.
 
Teflon Don said:
Oh I dint disagree that this country is more socialist than not.

Calling it democratic socialism is just another euphemism devised by Marxists to hide their intent. It always ends the same way

You advocate confiscating people’s property to quench your own conscience. That you hide behind government doesn’t make it right. You can call it legal if it makes you feel better, but remember slavery was once kegal

Democracy is no better than dictatorship. It is merely tyranny of the majority.
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Bingo, called it earlier, in MAGA’s eyes anyone or thing with the word socialism in it automatically means Trotskyism

So you don’t approve of democracy and you don’t approve of dictatorship, even though your Messiah is striving for the later, so tell us, what is the alternative, and please, don’t respond with republicanism, China and Cuba are Republics, and both have Constitutions
 
Into the Night said:
Slavery, communism, fascism, and capitalism all exist in the United States. This is true of any nation in the world, even brutal dictatorships.
Slavery, communism, and fascism are all forms of socialism. ALL are based on theft of wealth.

Capitalism is the only system that CREATES wealth. Indeed, socialism cannot exist without capitalism nearby to steal wealth from. Once socialism runs out of places to steal from, it collapses.

An oligarchy is not democracy, anchovies.

Government is your 'invisible hand'. You advocate socialism. You advocate communism. You advocate theft of wealth.
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We now got slavery in the US? Tell us where

“government is your invisible hand,” love to hear an explanation on that one, and we all saw in the last half of the 19th Century how well capitalism creates wealth and the consequences
 
archives said:
Bingo, called it earlier, in MAGA’s eyes anyone or thing with the word socialism in it automatically means Trotskyism

So you don’t approve of democracy and you don’t approve of dictatorship, even though your Messiah is striving for the later, so tell us, what is the alternative, and please, don’t respond with republicanism, China and Cuba are Republics, and both have Constitutions
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MAGA isn't a person, anchovies.

No, I abhore democracy. It is an unstable form of government. The oligarchy and dictatorship you want is not democracy anyway.
Jesus Christ is a king, anchovies.

China is not a republic. It's current form of government is oligarchy. There is no constitution.
Cuba is not a republic. It's current form of government is dictatorship. There is no constitution.
 
archives said:
We now got slavery in the US? Tell us where
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Throughout the United States. Human trafficking and slavery still exist in the United States (illegally). Most are sex slaves.
archives said:
“government is your invisible hand,” love to hear an explanation on that one,
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Nothing to explain. You used the term.
archives said:
and we all saw in the last half of the 19th century how well capitalism creates wealth and the consequences
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And it did very well.

It created whole markets where none existed before.
It created the personal computer industry, the web, and all the benefits they provide.
It created the practical personal vehicle, and all the benefits and conveniences they provide.
It created fantastic advances in medicine. Heart surgery is now almost routine, for example, thanks to improved equipment and techniques.
It made fertilizer almost literally dirt cheap as well as reducing the cost of raising, harvesting, and processing crops. They're practically giving bread away.
It created cheaper and more reliable abrasives.
It created cheaper and easier to install and maintain 'plaster' walls in the form of gypsum wallboard and all of it's variations.
It created cheap and easy to obtain lumber and engineered lumber products. You don't need your own sawmill or to waste whole trees on building a wall.
It created the wonderful fireworks you will see this July, as well as the chemicals, paper, and glue, and string used to make them.
It built whole cities out of the wilderness.
It made the price of quality steel cheaper than it had ever been before.
It created the gasoline industry, used to power automobiles and trucks everywhere.
It built the nation's only cross country railroad that made a profit.

You're an ingrate.
 
archives said:
Bingo, called it earlier, in MAGA’s eyes anyone or thing with the word socialism in it automatically means Trotskyism

So you don’t approve of democracy and you don’t approve of dictatorship, even though your Messiah is striving for the later, so tell us, what is the alternative, and please, don’t respond with republicanism, China and Cuba are Republics, and both have Constitutions
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Here is the thing puddin pop. You can call it liberalism, progressivism, socialism, democratic socialist, it all eventually leads to the same thing. There will always be those who don't want their shit confiscated. Your types always lie about your intentions. You start out saying you will only "punish" the rich or make them "pay their fair share" but the dirty truth you never tell everyone is that they don't have enough money to pay for your utopian dreams. So you inevitably have to come for everyone else.

You guys scream for "progressive" taxation yet we have one of the most progressive tax codes in the world. It is never enough for you guys.

The alternative is following the US Constitution to the letter. Every fucking word taken literally. No more "popular" vote to elect Senators only House of Representatives.

And stop with your "Trump wants to be......" it is all cooked up in your imagination. Yet when Team Blue actually utters the words like your boy Mandami in NYC, you guys wail "he was taken out of context". Yes he is on video saying he wants to take over the means of production yet he calls himself a democratic socialist. They are all part and parcel of the same collectivist ideology rooted in jealousy and class warfare with a little bit of racial warfare mixed in for good measure.

You will notice that conservatives never change what we are called. Because unlike you, we don't have to lie about who we are.

One minute you are progressives, then socialists, then liberals, then democratic socialists. You can't make up your minds.

And yes, I oppose true democracy just as the founders did which is why they didn't set one up.
 
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