Seattle Also Elects A Socialist Mayor

[Noking]

We're 80 posts into the thread and you chime in, clearly quite passionately based on the number of question marks, not about the topic but rather definitions and use of socialist as short hand for DSA?

To each his own I suppose.

So, you're using the word to disparage someone, regardless of the meaning of the language that you use.

 

[cawacko]

So, you're using the word to disparage someone, regardless of the meaning of the language that you use.

So we're stuck on policing terminology instead of addressing the subject, which is how people in urban areas vote for change and why certain cities elect progressives/dsa's as Mayors and others don't.

 

[Noking]

So we're stuck on policing terminology instead of addressing the subject, which is how people in urban areas vote for change and why certain cities elect progressives/dsa's as Mayors and others don't.

Here you are deflecting

 

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MAGA isn't a person, anchovies.

No, I abhore democracy. It is an unstable form of government. The oligarchy and dictatorship you want is not democracy anyway.
Jesus Christ is a king, anchovies.

China is not a republic. It's current form of government is oligarchy. There is no constitution.
Cuba is not a republic. Its current form of government is dictatorship. There is no constitution.

A simple $.99 cent mirror would show you you are wrong

Over generalization

Quite noticeable you never a served the question, so we’ll repeat it for you, “you don’t approve of democracy and you don’t approve of dictatorship, so tell us, what is the alternative?”

Wrong and wrong

 

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Throughout the United States. Human trafficking and slavery still exist in the United States (illegally). Most are sex slaves.

Nothing to explain. You used the term.

And it did very well.

It created whole markets where none existed before.
It created the personal computer industry, the web, and all the benefits they provide.
It created the practical personal vehicle, and all the benefits and conveniences they provide.
It created fantastic advances in medicine. Heart surgery is now almost routine, for example, thanks to improved equipment and techniques.
It made fertilizer almost literally dirt cheap as well as reducing the cost of raising, harvesting, and processing crops. They're practically giving bread away.
It created cheaper and more reliable abrasives.
It created cheaper and easier to install and maintain 'plaster' walls in the form of gypsum wallboard and all of it's variations.
It created cheap and easy to obtain lumber and engineered lumber products. You don't need your own sawmill or to waste whole trees on building a wall.
It created the wonderful fireworks you will see this July, as well as the chemicals, paper, and glue, and string used to make them.
It built whole cities out of the wilderness.
It made the price of quality steel cheaper than it had ever been before.
It created the gasoline industry, used to power automobiles and trucks everywhere.
It built the nation's only cross country railroad that made a profit.

You're an ingrate.

Appears someone ^ is just as uninformed on History as he is everything else

 

[Libhater]

Democratic socialist. There's a difference.

You're right for once. No such thing as a democratic socialist, but there is a total marriage between
a Democrat and a Socialist. There is no difference between the two.

 

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Gather 'round kiddies, a Communist is going to lie to you.



That's because you are extremely ignorant and poorly educated. You've never studied Adam Smith and mindlessly bleat what you hear on MSNBC or read on Young Turds.

Or “kiddies” you can gather to hear a MAGA cultist try to rewrite history just as his Messiah is attempting

And after all the “you are ……..” and “………….,” he still offers nothing to invalidate what I posted, shocker

 

[Uncensored2008]

You're right for once. No such thing as a democratic socialist, but there is a total marriage between
a Democrat and a Socialist. There is no difference between the two.

George Washington is the father of our country.

Joseph Stalin is the father of the modern democrat party.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Or “kiddies” you can gather to hear a MAGA cultist try to rewrite history just as his Messiah is attempting

What history do you allege was rewritten, Comrade

And after all the “you are ……..” and “………….,” he still offers nothing to invalidate what I posted, shocker

You posted idiocy. The USA has never had a socialist economy. You tell absurd lies because the hate sites urge you drones to try and "normalize" socialism. "It's nothing new, we've always been socialists." - It's fucking lie of course, but such is your nature.

 

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What history do you allege was rewritten, Comrade



You posted idiocy. The USA has never had a socialist economy. You tell absurd lies because the hate sites urge you drones to try and "normalize" socialism. "It's nothing new, we've always been socialists." - It's fucking lie of course, but such is your nature.

Your understanding, or I should say, misunderstanding, of history

Never said the USA ever had a socialist economy, rather that it has been part socialist since the 19th Century , a fact, and again to educate you, no nation’s economy is straight capitalism/socialism, every country has a mixed economy, pure anything doesn’t work

 

[Into the Night]

A simple $.99 cent mirror would show you you are wrong

Fallacy fallacy.

Over generalization

Argument of the Stone fallacy.

Quite noticeable you never a served the question, so we’ll repeat it for you, “you don’t approve of democracy and you don’t approve of dictatorship, so tell us, what is the alternative?”

RQAA.

I do not approve of democracy. I do not approve of oligarchy. I do not approve of dictatorship. I support a republic as a form of government.

Wrong and wrong

Argument of the Stone fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Or “kiddies” you can gather to hear a MAGA cultist try to rewrite history just as his Messiah is attempting

And after all the “you are ……..” and “………….,” he still offers nothing to invalidate what I posted, shocker

You are describing yourself again.
MAGA is not a person, anchovies.

 

[Into the Night]

George Washington is the father of our country.

Joseph Stalin is the father of the modern democrat party.

President Jackson founded the Democrat party.

He liked to steal land.
He liked to rape and abuse his own slaves.

Karl Marx is also an important influence. It was Karl Marx that Stalin followed.
Karl Marx advocated fascism and communism...the theft of wealth.

 

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Fallacy fallacy.

Argument of the Stone fallacy.

RQAA.

I do not approve of democracy. I do not approve of oligarchy. I do not approve of dictatorship. I support a republic as a form of government.

Argument of the Stone fallacy.

And once again a fallacious use of fallacies, a fallacy fallacy, repeatedly

And to again educate, a republic is a form or structure of government, China and Cuba call themselves republics, but they are not democratic republics as is the US, we democratically select out representatives. To say one supports a republic doesn’t mean anything, people in China and Cuba support their Republics, and we are China nor Cuba

 

[Into the Night]

What history do you allege was rewritten, Comrade

The history he rewrites or ignores.

You posted idiocy. The USA has never had a socialist economy.

Capitalism, fascism, communism, and slavery still exist in the United States. This is true for every nation.

The United States Constitution is centered around the concept of a limited government and capitalism.

You tell absurd lies because the hate sites urge you drones to try and "normalize" socialism. "It's nothing new, we've always been socialists." - It's fucking lie of course, but such is your nature.

Socialism, of course, is not normal. It is theft of wealth.

 

[Into the Night]

Your understanding, or I should say, misunderstanding, of history

Inversion fallacy.

Never said the USA ever had a socialist economy,

DON'T TRY TO DENY YOUR OWN POSTS!

rather that it has been part socialist since the 19th Century , a fact, and again to educate you, no nation’s economy is straight capitalism/socialism, every country has a mixed economy, pure anything doesn’t work

Pure capitalism always works.

It was capitalism that literally built whole cities out of the wilderness.
It was capitalism that created the personal computer market, the web, AI, robotics, and all the benefits they provide.
It was capitalism that made the personal vehicle a practical reality.

Capitalism requires no government. No 'regulator'. No 'moderator'. It is self correcting.
It is the only system that creates wealth.
It is not a respecter. Anyone can play the game of capitalism, rich or poor, educated or not. It only requires the will to do so.
It is the best avenue for the poor to lift themselves out of poverty.

It is the voluntary creation of products and services for voluntary sale at the agreed upon price.

 

[Into the Night]

And once again a fallacious use of fallacies, a fallacy fallacy, repeatedly

You can't blame your fallacies on me or anybody else, anchovies.

And to again educate, a republic is a form or structure of government,

WRONG.

A republic is government by law (a constitution). That constitution specifies representatives (officers) in that government, what their powers are, the term of their service, the method by which they are elected, and also specifies how the owners of that constitution (the people for State constitutions and the States for the U.S. Constitution) may amend that constitution.

A government by constitution has NO powers outside of that specifically granted by it's constitution.

China and Cuba call themselves republics,

China is not a republic. It has no constitution. It is currently an oligarchy (dictatorship by committee).
Cuba is not a republic. It has no constitution. It is currently a dictatorship.

but they are not democratic republics

There is no such thing as a 'democratic republic'. A democracy is not a republic.

as is the US,

The United States is a federated republic. It is not and never was a democracy.

we democratically select out representatives.

No. All officers and representatives in the United States are elected according to the procedures laid out in that Constitution. Their power and authority is only that granted by that same Constitution. Their term of service is specified by that same Constitution.

See Article I and the 14th amendment for the method of electing a Representative to Congress.
See Article I, the 14th amendment, and the 17th amendment for the method of electing a Senator.
See Article II and the 12th amendment for the method of electing a President.
Also see the 13th amendment, the 15th amendments, 19th amendment, the 20th amendment, the 22nd amendment, the 23rd amendment, the 24th amendment, and the 25th amendment.


A democracy has no constitution and no representatives. A democracy is government by popular vote, and is an unstable form of government.

To say one supports a republic doesn’t mean anything, people in China and Cuba support their Republics, and we are China nor Cuba

 

[Uncensored2008]

So, you're using the word to disparage someone, regardless of the meaning of the language that you use.

Why are you embarrassed?

Obviously even one who is severely retarded such as you knows that socialism is evil. I'll give you a hint, National Socialism. Calling yourselves NSDAP or DSA doesn't alter what you are. The National Socialist Democratic Workers party are socialists who seek collectivist totalitarianism. If your side were to win, you wouldn't get everything free as you fantasize that you will.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Your understanding, or I should say, misunderstanding, of history

So no history was rewritten, you're just flinging shit because you can't support your positions.

Never said the USA ever had a socialist economy,

"Before we proceed you are aware that the US has been part socialist since the 19th Century, correct?"

Do you deny that you told that lie?

rather that it has been part socialist since the 19th Century ,

A deliberately false claim - made more bizarre by denying then embracing your idiocy.

a fact, and again to educate you, no nation’s economy is straight capitalism/socialism, every country has a mixed economy, pure anything doesn’t work

You don't grasp what socialism is. Social services are not ownership or control of the means of production by the state or central authority.

Welfare is not socialism, Comrade. You are simply economically illiterate.

 

[Noking]

Why are you embarrassed?

Obviously even one who is severely retarded such as you knows that socialism is evil. I'll give you a hint, National Socialism. Calling yourselves NSDAP or DSA doesn't alter what you are. The National Socialist Democratic Workers party are socialists who seek collectivist totalitarianism. If your side were to win, you wouldn't get everything free as you fantasize that you will.

Apparently posting foolish tripe doesn't embarrass you. You're the classic case of no brain, no pain.