Let's cut the pretense

T. A. Gardner said:
Regardless, the problem here is Iran not the US. Iran is clearly working towards a nuclear weapon. The question isn't stopping them so much as HOW to stop them. Bribes--like Obama and Biden tried, and these were tried by other Presidents with N. Korea too--DO NOT WORK. You cannot bribe a determined criminal into going straight.

So, the only reasonable alternative is to do things by force. The problem here is Trump is not all that sharp when it comes to military operations. His thinking is akin to 'Hulk break things!' He has the right idea on this. It's just his execution of it is amateurish at best.
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Then why is tRump offering them $25 billion?
 
Teflon Don said:
It doesn't matter how the Iran conflict ends, the 47th Amendment requires JPP marxists to paint it as a failure. Trump could get the Iranians to dump all of their uranium in the Indian Ocean (not literally leftist idiots) and they would still find a way to paint it as a failure.
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The current reporting shows Trump will have a worse deal than Obama. We all know how much TD hated the Obama deal. But he will paint that worse deal as the best deal ever.
Teflon Don said:
They will never give him credit or the benefit of the doubt on anything. Even if it is something they agree on philosophically.

Case in point. Leftists on this board for YEARS have been screaming about the high prices of prescription medicines and the evils of BIG PHARMA. Trump steps forward and takes actions to lower prices and all they can do is cry that they call it TrumpRx. These idiots probably think he is making money on copays or something.

That is how badly he has broken their brains.
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Case in point. Trump takes credit for something someone else put in place by naming it after himself and cult members like Teflon Don think we should all give Trump credit for that.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
It's better than nothing I suppose. You do know that $1000 invested at 3% over 20 years yields just $1,806 with compound interest...

What works is saving money and having interest being high enough to offset inflation or beat it. So, if you were sticking $1000 a year in an account (about $83 a month or about $20 a week) and the interest is 3% you end up with close to $40,000 in 20 years. Saving $20 a week makes the difference.
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And yet Trump is telling us that they will have $6,000 at 18 years with that $1,000 investment. (A return of almost 10.5% over that period.)

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Tobytone said:
Breaking News!!!!!

Iran's President just posted "We are ready to assure the world that we are not seeking nuclear weapons. We are not seeking instability in the region."

That's a huge win. Trump got them to cry uncle to the whole world.
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Iran may be ready to assure the world "we love and admire Donald Trump. We are seeking only love, just hear us cry uncle", and send it like a valentine. War over, case closed.

Aren't words the best?
 
Crepitus said:
Then why is tRump offering them $25 billion?
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to be fair I have not seen an official source from the US say that we are offering them 25 billion. I have seen "unnamed sources" from both sides. Having lived thru covid, russiagate, etc i dont place to much value on unnamed sources.

From what I hear so far it sounds like total capitulation by the US. However I will reserve final judgement until we are presented with the actual text.
 
Tobytone said:
Breaking News!!!!!

Iran's President just posted "We are ready to assure the world that we are not seeking nuclear weapons. We are not seeking instability in the region."

That's a huge win. Trump got them to cry uncle to the whole world.

Obviously, this is a 'big fucking deal' as Obama would whisper. But as you just pointed out the stories are already in the pipeline to spin this as a huge win for the IRGC because they are still breathing, I guess.

In all seriousness if this holds it's a massive win for the world and especially for us. Sure, Iran lies every single time they sign any deal but so how could this work? Trump isn't some idiot desperate for a photo op deal who takes their word for it then pretends they'll magically comply and do the right thing like his predecessors. He's made it crystal clear the guns and bombs stay locked and loaded until and only if they actually keep every promise. It's trust but verify in real time.

Despite the idiots in the media and elsewhere Trump stands alone as the only leader who actually hammered Iran hard and hit them three times in ways that mattered. The first strike buried years of their work and cash under tons of granite leaving them in real pain. The second one was even worse destroying over twenty thousand targets and flushing away decades of effort money and infrastructure in one brutal go. Then came the blockade the knockout punch that finished the job.

While the usual suspects whine about billions in unfrozen assets they ignore that Iran has been bleeding close to a billion dollars every two days just in lost oil sales alone. This so-called relief is nothing more than us unlocking the very funds we froze at the start of Economic Fury. That's not weakness it's leverage pure and simple. Trump squeezed them from every angle smashing their assets crippling their cash flow and choking their economy until they had no choice but to drop to their knees and spit out that desperate statement.
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It's a loss for the Iranian people if it goes through. I'm thinking he's just trying to get them to go back to business as usual so they can be tracked and eliminated. No way are these fuckers going to do the things they say they will. They just want them getting killed to stop.
 
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martin said:
Iran may be ready to assure the world "we love and admire Donald Trump. We are seeking only love, just hear us cry uncle", and send it like a valentine. War over, case closed.

Aren't words the best?
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Hilarious coming from a libtard that's entire existence can be summed up as a bunch of mentally ill radicalized drones that think 'good' intentions' equals good deeds. Trump isn't using words you idiot. He bombed the hell out of assets and their economy. Now he's forcing the loss of 3 billion a week in oil sales and a hundred billion in locked up funds desperately needed by the pedo cult. Libtards?? They love words so much they'll give up over a hundred billion for a few words on a piece of paper and forgetting the verify part of trust but verify. Libtards will give a guy the Nobel Peace Prize for zero accomplishments, nothing but words. I could go on if you want. Keep crying Marty, it's just the beginning of your misery. Golden Age for us, but not for libtards, lol. For libtards like Marty, it's hell on earth, there's little that causes so much misery for a dumbass like Marty than America winning.
 
Cypress said:
I don't search threads for what other comments were, so I'm going to assume you didn't know, and FOX neglected to tell you, that Iran has been saying for years that they are not building nuclear weapons and don't have an intention to do so.
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And it's been proven that they have been the entire time, moron! Derp!
 
Nordberg said:
You must have learned by now that the money Obama sent Iran was their money we were paid for munitions that we never delivered. We owed it to them. As part of the Nuke deal, we returned their money.
Trump was working on a very similar deal when, in the midst of negotiations, he launched a sneak attack. That was very Pearl Harbor-like, but worse. It is the kind of thing we would not do until Trump got power.
The strait blockade is a byproduct of Trump's sneak attack. He is responsible for the impact on the world economy.
Obama's deal was made by 6 nations in high level conferences that included nuclear experts and scientists. It included inspections.
Iran has stated they have no interest in a nuke. However, they can be sure that if they had one, Daffy Donald would not have attacked them. That is a pretty good reason to build one.
Trump cannot be trusted. He ignores deals according to his daily whims.
This whole mess falls at one person's feet.
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Inspections that never happened, or were telegraphed in advance so Iran could move things, retard.
Derpa Doodle Doo!
 
Teflon Don said:
It doesn't matter how the Iran conflict ends, the 47th Amendment requires JPP marxists to paint it as a failure. Trump could get the Iranians to dump all of their uranium in the Indian Ocean (not literally leftist idiots) and they would still find a way to paint it as a failure.

They will never give him credit or the benefit of the doubt on anything. Even if it is something they agree on philosophically.

Case in point. Leftists on this board for YEARS have been screaming about the high prices of prescription medicines and the evils of BIG PHARMA. Trump steps forward and takes actions to lower prices and all they can do is cry that they call it TrumpRx. These idiots probably think he is making money on copays or something.

That is how badly he has broken their brains.
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What would be considered a “win” ?
 
Matt Dillon said:
It's a loss for the Iranian people if it goes through. I'm thinking he's just trying to get them to go back to business as usual so they can be tracked and eliminated. No way are these fuckers going to do things they say they will. They just want them getting killed to stop.
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I was writing a long reply to explain the whole thing as I see it. I don't have time right now. All I say is don't worry, the regime's days are numbered.
 
Teflon Don said:
It doesn't matter how the Iran conflict ends, the 47th Amendment requires JPP marxists to paint it as a failure. Trump could get the Iranians to dump all of their uranium in the Indian Ocean (not literally leftist idiots) and they would still find a way to paint it as a failure.

They will never give him credit or the benefit of the doubt on anything. Even if it is something they agree on philosophically.

Case in point. Leftists on this board for YEARS have been screaming about the high prices of prescription medicines and the evils of BIG PHARMA. Trump steps forward and takes actions to lower prices and all they can do is cry that they call it TrumpRx. These idiots probably think he is making money on copays or something.

That is how badly he has broken their brains.
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What would be a good end to the Iran situation? What would be better than what Obama accomplished by releasing one billion of their money?

Its very interesting you and the PP refuse to define what would be a win.
 
Jarod said:
What would be a good end to the Iran situation? What would be better than what Obama accomplished by releasing one billion of their money?

Its very interesting you and the PP refuse to define what would be a win.
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a win would be you finally shutting up about it
 
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