Entering your home without a warrant.

Jarod said:
ICE claims the right to enter your home without a warrant.
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Start with a lie.

Jarod said:
Historically and very long established caselaw says the only time the GOVERNMENT has that right is if they are in hot pursuit if a dangerous felon.



Do you Trumppers agree with ICE, that they can simply enter homes without a warrant? Is this not the type of shit we quit England over? What about the 4th Amendment?

Are you libertarians upset? @Damocles
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We just recognize that you are lying - as always.
 
Jarod said:
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." United States Constitution, 4th Amendment.
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And?
 
Damocles said:
I am telling you that none of the examples you gave argued that they entered the home uninvited. Only one of them actually argued that there was no warrant for arrest and he was set free.

I am interested to find out what their arguments are, but so far what you've provided do not argue anything about entering homes without warrants. I do not know if they have, based on the filed suits that you provided there is no evidence that they have entered a single house without a warrant as they do not even mention that.
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They are all cases where ICE could not prove lawful detention authority. This is a lot of such cases in a short period of time, showing a pattern of violating constitutional protections on government activity.

My PACER is down currently, there might be more info available when I can get in.
 
Jarod said:
They are all cases where ICE could not prove lawful detention authority. This is a lot of such cases in a short period of time, showing a pattern of violating constitutional protections on government activity.

My PACER is down currently, there might be more info available when I can get in.
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However not even one of them claimed entry into a home. And 3 of those cases they were granted at least partial habeas.

You are again just repeating nonsense that does not support your OP, if you brought this crap to court they might hold you in contempt for assuming their stupidity. I get that you don't think laymen will check the BS you post, but when someone does and they call you out on it stop doubling down...

Give me cases where they went into people's houses without a warrant, put up or shut up.
 
Damocles said:
However not even one of them claimed entry into a home. And 3 of those cases they were granted at least partial habeas.

You are again just repeating nonsense that does not support your OP, if you brought this crap to court they might hold you in contempt for assuming their stupidity. I get that you don't think laymen will check the BS you post, but when someone does and they call you out on it stop doubling down...

Give me cases where they went into people's houses without a warrant, put up or shut up.
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Do you know that for sure?
 
Damocles said:
I looked up the cases, read what was ruled on and what they filed as arguments. So, yes. I am sure.
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Ok, I might have made a mistake... I was asked to provide examples, that list of cases was only one of the examples I provided.

Its clear they are entering homes in violation of the 4th, my point stands.




www.pbs.org

A U.S. citizen says ICE forced open the door to his Minnesota home and removed him in his underwear after a warrantless search

The Department of Homeland Security says the operation targeted two sex offenders, but Thao disputes this, saying he lives with his family, none of whom are listed as offenders.
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Damocles said:
However not even one of them claimed entry into a home. And 3 of those cases they were granted at least partial habeas.

You are again just repeating nonsense that does not support your OP, if you brought this crap to court they might hold you in contempt for assuming their stupidity. I get that you don't think laymen will check the BS you post, but when someone does and they call you out on it stop doubling down...

Give me cases where they went into people's houses without a warrant, put up or shut up.
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Gibson v. Bondi, No. 0:2026cv00172 (D. Minn. Jan. 15, 2026)
 
Damocles said:
However not even one of them claimed entry into a home. And 3 of those cases they were granted at least partial habeas.

You are again just repeating nonsense that does not support your OP, if you brought this crap to court they might hold you in contempt for assuming their stupidity. I get that you don't think laymen will check the BS you post, but when someone does and they call you out on it stop doubling down...

Give me cases where they went into people's houses without a warrant, put up or shut up.
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Chicago South Shore Apartments - September 30, 2025​

Evidence:
  • Black Hawk helicopter deployed
  • Snipers on roof
  • 37 people arrested
  • Multiple wrong apartments entered
  • Doors destroyed, apartments ransacked
  • Photos of destruction published
  • Blood stains and zip ties photographed
  • ProPublica investigation found no criminal charges filed
  • Constitutional law professor called it "one of the most unconstitutional things the federal government has ever done"
Sources:
  • Chicago Tribune, WBEZ, Block Club Chicago (extensive photo documentation)
  • ProPublica investigation
  • CNN coverage
AI found this one for me.
 
Damocles said:
However not even one of them claimed entry into a home. And 3 of those cases they were granted at least partial habeas.

You are again just repeating nonsense that does not support your OP, if you brought this crap to court they might hold you in contempt for assuming their stupidity. I get that you don't think laymen will check the BS you post, but when someone does and they call you out on it stop doubling down...

Give me cases where they went into people's houses without a warrant, put up or shut up.
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There is even an ICE memo saying the practice is Constitutional.
 
Jarod said:

Chicago South Shore Apartments - September 30, 2025​

Evidence:
  • Black Hawk helicopter deployed
  • Snipers on roof
  • 37 people arrested
  • Multiple wrong apartments entered
  • Doors destroyed, apartments ransacked
  • Photos of destruction published
  • Blood stains and zip ties photographed
  • ProPublica investigation found no criminal charges filed
  • Constitutional law professor called it "one of the most unconstitutional things the federal government has ever done"
Sources:
  • Chicago Tribune, WBEZ, Block Club Chicago (extensive photo documentation)
  • ProPublica investigation
  • CNN coverage
AI found this one for me.
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Thanks. Now I can read what was going on. Sounds "exciting" which is something you don't want on police action. Wrong entries, etc. I will read up and get back to you on what I see.
 
Lionfish said:
Bullshit.

There are times when ICE can cross the threshold into a home without a warrant. The law is different for immigration purposes when it relates to foreign nationals. This could be handled administratively, not criminally.

On your coffee break, look up curtilage and exigent circumstances, which might allow ICE with an administrative warrant to cross the plane of the threshold, grab the known offender, make the arrest, and in the officer's notes say that the individual was my target and it was right in front of me.

If you were a lawyer you would know that. If you were a serious receptionist, you would be answering the phones.
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patently false. look up Payton vs New York and Siedentop v. state
 
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