I recently attended orientation for my kids college.

[Jarod]

Im at a very big state school orientation. They are giving parents granular information about how to schedule classes and how to keep your kid off of academic probation…. How to get students football tickets.

I did not do any of that for my kids in high school.

Do people really manage their college kids like this and if so why is the school promoting it?

 

[cawacko]

I think there are several reasons for this. (I'm reminded of a Glenn Loury/John McWhorter, both Ivy League professors, podcast on this subject. One comment Loury said that stuck with me, and he was only partially joking, that a kid's parents would fly half way across the country and be at his office door at 8:00am if he gave a kid a B.)

School's have started transitioning to a more service oriented model of providing education. And then you have helicopter parenting. Parents are worried about their kids future. So to them the importance of being in top schools and doing well while there, while always important to some degree, carries even more weight today.

Then you throw in the costs. When people are paying high five figures annually it seems it can drive them to be more hands on as well.

A little rambling, but just some thoughts.

 

[Walt]

Do people really manage their college kids like this and if so why is the school promoting it?

My advice: Set a time every week that you talk to your kid, whether it is over the phone, or more likely today video conferencing. Make clear that he, or she must talk to you once a week.

That is just about the most you can do.

 

[cawacko]

A very big state school. They are giving parents granular information about how to schedule classes and how to keep your kid off of academic probation…. How to nut students football tickets.

I did not do any of that for my kids in high school.

Do people really manage their college kids like this and if so why is the school promoting it?

I think this article hits on some of what you're talking about.

Let’s Get Over Ourselves: Students are Customers, Now and Forever​

Let’s quickly revisit why it’s worth focusing on delivering a great student experience. In the first lecture in this series, “Redefining the Student Experience”, we shared the University of Maryland University College’s findings that after three bad experiences with administrative bureaucracy, students will drop out.

That’s not issues with the academic programs, or concerns about the rigour of the program. That’s purely chalked up to bad customer experiences.

Let’s Get Over Ourselves: Students are Customers, Now and Forever

As with any paradigm shift, the idea that institutions must treat students as customers has come under heavy criticism. Higher education’s old guard has be

moderncampus.com

 

[Teflon Don]

A very big state school. They are giving parents granular information about how to schedule classes and how to keep your kid off of academic probation…. How to nut students football tickets.

I did not do any of that for my kids in high school.

Do people really manage their college kids like this and if so why is the school promoting it?

I don't believe you. If you are so hands off, why did you feel the need to attend orientation?

I suspect you are a helicopter parent of epic proportions

 

[Lionfish]

A very big state school. They are giving parents granular information about how to schedule classes and how to keep your kid off of academic probation…. How to nut students football tickets.

I did not do any of that for my kids in high school.

Do people really manage their college kids like this and if so why is the school promoting it?

I went to Costco.

 

[Teflon Don]

I went to Costco.

He is such a narcissistic little shit isn't he?

 

[Jarod]

I think there are several reasons for this. (I'm reminded of a Glenn Loury/John McWhorter, both Ivy League professors, podcast on this subject. One comment Loury said that stuck with me, and he was only partially joking, that a kid's parents would fly half way across the country and be at his office door at 8:00am if he gave a kid a B.)

School's have started transitioning to a more service oriented model of providing education. And then you have helicopter parenting. Parents are worried about their kids future. So to them the importance of being in top schools and doing well while there, while always important to some degree, carries even more weight today.

Then you throw in the costs. When people are paying high five figures annually it seems it can drive them to be more hands on as well.

A little rambling, but just some thoughts.

Those reasons make sense, but I think this is ridiculous. The parents sound like they are moving to school w the kids.

 

[Jarod]

I think this article hits on some of what you're talking about.

Let’s Get Over Ourselves: Students are Customers, Now and Forever​

Let’s quickly revisit why it’s worth focusing on delivering a great student experience. In the first lecture in this series, “Redefining the Student Experience”, we shared the University of Maryland University College’s findings that after three bad experiences with administrative bureaucracy, students will drop out.

That’s not issues with the academic programs, or concerns about the rigour of the program. That’s purely chalked up to bad customer experiences.

Let’s Get Over Ourselves: Students are Customers, Now and Forever

As with any paradigm shift, the idea that institutions must treat students as customers has come under heavy criticism. Higher education’s old guard has be

moderncampus.com

I think they should treat students very well, like customers, other than with grades….

But not the parents, they aren’t the customers, and these kids have to grow up sometime.

 

[Jarod]

I don't believe you. If you are so hands off, why did you feel the need to attend orientation?

I suspect you are a helicopter parent of epic proportions

Kid wanted me to come, and it’s a program for kids and parents. I’m here in a limited support role, not someone who is going to manage my kids schedule or meals.

 

[Teflon Don]

Kid wanted me to come, and it’s a program for kids and parents. I’m here in a limited support role, not someone who is going to manage my kids schedule or meals.

I dont believe you

given what I know about you, there is ZERO chance you don't micromanage your kids affairs

oh you probably tell yourself that you don't, but you do

the fact that you even went says I am right. They might have invited you, but you didn't have to go. A real parent would have said "this is your deal now, you don't need me there"

But, you went and you soaked it all in. That is why you came here to tell us all about it. I bet you even got a room there on campus

 

[TOP]

Kid wanted me to come, and it’s a program for kids and parents. I’m here in a limited support role, not someone who is going to manage my kids schedule or meals.

You said the magic word.... she wanted you to be there... Freshman year is a big step... Especially at a big university...