Iran’s fate belongs to Iranians — not the West —and it’s now or never

I have been told that the F-22 were sent to this war but returned home unused, because they are useless here, and because the Demonic Empire does not want to face the propaganda disaster of having one shot down....which very well might have happened.

Iran is the first to shoot down a F-35.....America does not want to add the F-22.
More dumb lies from the brainless wonder dunce. :palm:
 
Trump is giving them a chance to rid the yoke of a tyrannical Islamic regime that is determined to destroy the world!
Trump doesn't give a shit about Iranian civilians. He threatened to destroy the country's civilian water, power, electrical, and physical infrastructure, wipe their civilization off the map, and send them to the stone age where they will never recover
 
You are I am not too bright,

Yep.

low grade calling A jew a hamas hunger

You can claim you are a Jew all you want mental case, but you bloviate like a Hamas hugging moron on steroids.

especially from someone whose mother was in the hitller youth, fritzy

There you go with the stupid lies again. I don't think you can post without looking like a brain dead, America hating Hammas hugging moron.
 
Trump doesn't give a shit about Iranian civilians.

Because you, a brainless, unhinged, whiney lying leftist hack says so. But alas, you're an idiot. Idiots don't know they are idiots.

He threatened to destroy the country's civilian water, power, electrical, and physical infrastructure, wipe their civilization off the map, and send them to the stone age where they will never recover

And yet, he didn't do it, did he brainless dumbass. Now run along. I think its time for your meds and a nap.
 
The U.S. national average gasoline price reached its high point during President Biden’s term in mid‑June 2022, with contemporaneous national averages reported around $5.00 per gallon
The peak for Biden hit on June 14th, 2022 at $5.016. We do not know what the peak will be for trump for obvious reasons.

It had nothing to do with Trump dumbass.
The Iran War has everything to do with trump.

How? Be specific. How can Iran control the straight other than through propaganda in the Western FAKE phony media?
The Strait at its narrowest is two navigable miles wide. That goes for several miles. That makes ships trying to go through it easy to hit by artillery, drones, and rockets from so many places in Iran that it would be impossible to stop them.

This is a fact not by the "fake phony media" but rather by the actual ships that cannot get through without permission from Iran.
 
Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei will issue a new message shortly, with traders and diplomats watching for clues on Hormuz, the war and nuclear talks.
Sure, he will. I guess cardboard leaders can talk in Iran, lol. Is he still a bit shy? Trouble faking his voice well enough? Why not, a 'statement' will do the trick. After all, pedo cult members like you will believe anything other than reality.
 
When they threatened the region, Israel, chanted Death to America and started trying to build a nuclear ballistic missile dumb fuck. :palm:

Kamala voters say the dumbest shit while crying, lying and flailing.



Projection. You're the definition of weak, low IQ sophomoric arguments lacking in facts, common sense or intelligence you whiney dotard. :laugh:
So Iran “threatening the region, chanting Death to America, etc” proves that Iran’s fate didn’t belong to Iran? Must be MAGA logic
 
The peak for Biden hit on June 14th, 2022 at $5.016. We do not know what the peak will be for trump for obvious reasons.
What do we know? It hasn't hit that number yet. I'd think if it was going to, it would have already. And exactly what did we get for those sustained high gas prices from Biden?
Nothing but more inflation, debt, and a whole bunch of fraud by idiots claiming to fight for the environment.
The Iran War has everything to do with trump.
Thank God.
The Strait at its narrowest is two navigable miles wide. That goes for several miles. That makes ships trying to go through it easy to hit by artillery, drones, and rockets from so many places in Iran that it would be impossible to stop them.

This is a fact not by the "fake phony media" but rather by the actual ships that cannot get through without permission from Iran.
Another libtard fantasy. Is it easy? That depends on what you call easy. Have you ever seen the aftermath of WWII bombing raids? Search for some images to refresh your memory. We have much better bombs and missiles now and enough firepower to flatten every inch of that coastline twenty miles deep. Anything they try to fire from beyond that zone would be an easy target.

I'll give you one example of our military's brilliance when a real problem is presented. In the beginning of the operation, we faced a difficult equation. We could easily protect any plot of land or sea we wanted, but shooting very expensive missiles at four-thousand-dollar drones was not sustainable long term. Since these little drones became the new favorite tool of terrorists we needed a better solution.

Now we have a simple piece of equipment that fits in a single shipping container and can be retrofitted very easily. It can take down hundreds of drones automatically or with a joystick for just one dollar per shot. The cost of the electricity to down the drone, no explosion, no smoke, no trace, and no lead time required. Just a zap and the drone drops instantly. Oh and it cannot be electronically jammed or shot down either.

My point is we have more than enough capability, intelligence, and good old American ingenuity to achieve whatever is necessary. We have several option to achieve anything you could think of. The argument that it is too difficult or impossible is pure libtard fantasy.
 
The peak for Biden hit on June 14th, 2022 at $5.016. We do not know what the peak will be for trump for obvious reasons.

Thank you Mr. OBVIOUS. That's what I posted dumbass. What we do know is that the morons who are whining and carping about gas now are the same morons who defended Bidens massive inflationary spending by claiming it is "transitory."

The Iran War has everything to do with trump.

Wrong again brainless dumbass. It has everything to do with a rogue Islamic nation threatening America and its neighbors with nuclear weapons it would actually use.

I do wish you Kamal voters had brains. But then, you wouldn't be Kamala voters. ;)

The Strait at its narrowest is two navigable miles wide. That goes for several miles. That makes ships trying to go through it easy to hit by artillery, drones, and rockets from so many places in Iran that it would be impossible to stop them.

What artillery? What rockets? What drones? We blew them all up. It would be easy to spot them and destroy whats left of them as we have complete control of the skies over Iran and the sea. DUH

Stop gobbling up what CNN is spoon feeding you dipshit.

This is a fact not by the "fake phony media" but rather by the actual ships that cannot get through without permission from Iran.

You have no facts dipshit. All you have is hyperbole, speculation and Iranian propaganda. You're too stupid to even know you're a dupe.
 
The fact that he threatened to cause massive and irreparable harm to Iranian civilians is all the proof you need that Trump doesn't give a shit about Iranian civilians.

There you go with the stupid lies. You know what is causing irreparable harm to Iranian civilians? Their own government dipshit. God you Hamas huggers are a stupid lot.
 
There you go with the mentally retarded interpretation is what is being debated. You really are as retarded as you post halfwit. :palm:
Nothing being “debated,” you clearly said “Iran’s fate belongs to Iranians,” to which I asked when didn’t Iran’s fate belongs to Iranians, to which you replied “When they threatened the region, Israel, chanted Death to America and started trying to build a nuclear ballistic missile ,” which is inane
 
It hasn't hit that number yet. I'd think if it was going to, it would have already.
At this point in the Biden Presidency, it had not hit the peak.

trump has had 400 million barrels in strategic reserves released to postpone the peak. Reserves run out. We will see where the peak is this Summer or later.

Have you ever seen the aftermath of WWII bombing raids?
That was on cities. It is much harder to carpet bomb 600,000 square miles.

What artillery? What rockets? What drones? We blew them all up.
It is a fact that whenever a ship tries to transit the Strait without Iran's permission they are warned off with artillery shells. It is kind of tough to shoot artillery shells without artillery.

Beyond that, trump is currently striking artillery, rockets, and drones... So not all blown up.

It would be easy to spot them and destroy whats left of them as we have complete control of the skies over Iran and the sea. DUH
Then why can't ships leave the Persian Gulf without Iran's permission?
 
At this point in the Biden Presidency, it had not hit the peak.

trump has had 400 million barrels in strategic reserves released to postpone the peak. Reserves run out. We will see where the peak is this Summer or later.


That was on cities. It is much harder to carpet bomb 600,000 square miles.


It is a fact that whenever a ship tries to transit the Strait without Iran's permission they are warned off with artillery shells. It is kind of tough to shoot artillery shells without artillery.

Beyond that, trump is currently striking artillery, rockets, and drones... So not all blown up.


Then why can't ships leave the Persian Gulf without Iran's permission?
Hey Wally, first of all you're reading fake news like always. Trump did not release 400 million barrels. That would be hard to do when Biden left us with 394 million barrels, right? I got to say, I'm getting really sick of educated morons that can do it for themselves preventing yourselves from being embarrassed every single time you open your mouths.

Let's look at the facts:
  • When Biden took office (January 2021): 638 million barrels
  • Lowest point (mid-2023): Around 370 million barrels
  • Net drawdown: Roughly 268 million barrels at the bottom.
Why? Biden’s policies played a huge role in the high prices. Canceling Keystone XL, pausing new federal leasing, heavy regulation on drilling, and general hostility to US oil production. This kept US output from growing fast enough to offset the little, by comparison shock to oil prices when Putin decided it was time now that autopen was in charge. So...what happened next, when a competent administration took over again?

  • Biden left the SPR at 394 million barrels.
  • Trump added back 47 million441 million barrels.
  • Trump released 172 million441 - 172 = 269 million barrels. We could discuss the reasons for both Presidents actions if you'd like.
Where did Wally get his fake news?? Who knows, but it's clear he just repeats it like always. He simply accepted a fantasy some idiot wrote or said on The View and parroted 400 barrels!!

Then it's 'why can't the tankers leave yet?? Not sure if he thinks I've said we did carpet bomb 600 square miles or if he read between the lines that don't exist. There are many reasons that we could only speculate about without the knowledge that's not available to either of us, or the fake news. If you'd really like for me to give you some, I'd be happy to. I assume you're not capable to thinking of any all by yourself and since your puppet master's haven't given you any talking points to explain those reasons, you're lost, out of luck, stuck until a libtard 'expert' tells you. Just ask, and I'll help.

The other dumbass parts of your comment like those pictures show cities destroyed, not 600 square miles. Hilarious, This idiot thinks we couldn't flatten 600 square miles if needed. Why? Well, I guess he's flailing or isn't aware of the size and scope of our destructive power, who knows how presumably 'educated' people become babbling idiots. I have plenty of opinions, but I'll leave that for another day.

The point Wally? We can do whatever is necessary up to and including flattening 600 square miles leaving nothing by insects living if needed. Of course, we would not need to carpet bomb as we did thousands of square miles in WWII. We have much better intel and targeting these days.
 
Hey Wally, first of all you're reading fake news like always. Trump did not release 400 million barrels.

Then it's 'why can't the tankers leave yet??
With so many ships locked up in the Gulf for so many months, if they had a chance to leave, they would. We all know that if anyone tries to leave the Gulf without Iranian permission, they are warned off with artillery shells.

Not sure if he thinks I've said we did carpet bomb 600 square miles
You said we could bomb all of Iran, like we bombed cities in WWII. Creating that much explosives in WWII cost a lot of money, so it would require a huge shift in our industrial policy to even do WWII level bombings.

More importantly, Iran is not 600 square miles. That would at least be doable. It is 600,000 square miles.

We can do whatever is necessary up to and including flattening 600 square miles leaving nothing by insects living if needed. Of course, we would not need to carpet bomb as we did thousands of square miles in WWII.
Again, Iran is not 600 square miles, but rather 600,000 square miles. Carpet bombing a few square miles was difficult in WWII.

We should run the math. Carpet bombing a square mile requires 400 tons of explosives. To carpet bomb 600,000 square miles would require 240 million tons of explosives. The USA dropped about 2 million tons of explosives in all WWII, so we are talking about 120 times the effort of WWII.

Are you really willing to make that level of committment?
 
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