That pattern seems absent from the historical record. Neither major party as an entity has performed the feats they promised while in opposition.
That said, I would consider any candidate who has no poor track record for any elected office.
No one to vote for. Trump has betrayed my trust. What options do I have now?
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That pattern seems absent from the historical record. Neither major party as an entity has performed the feats they promised while in opposition.
That said, I would consider any candidate who has no poor track record for any elected office.
You clearly do not understand things you read. None of this is a defense of anything, it simply describes what happens.
Let me reread some parts to you...
I give reasons why I didn't vote for Trump, that are also reasons this guy is likely disappointed by Trump... Then you, in your infinite professional incomprehension say I am "defending" him. It's idiocy on a pile of Q Pee...
Maybe next time you can read things, and speak about the points rather than trying to speak stupidly about me. I know you love to focus on me, you get excited when you see my muscly avatar walking towards you... but the post said nothing that you think it says. Probably because you are distracted by my big stick with it's large lighted knob on top.
I am describing reasons why this guy is likely disappointed by Trump, and why it will not be resolved by Trump.... and because you get hot when you see my avatar the only thing you can think about is talking incorrectly and without understanding about me...
Trump is about to vanish, anyway.
As we as voters move forward, he isn't even going to be an option.
None of what I've seen from professional politicians in general has been encouraging.
For instance, costs (and my taxes) keep rising, but wages aren't keeping up.
It looks pretty doubtful that money deducted from my pay will ever provide me with any retirement income because Social Security is just not sustainable, IMO.
These issues may not concern Boomers, but they sure worry me. I do like the libertartian platform.
Truth.
Just be warned, voting Libertarian just means you vote for people that you would like to win, but it does not mean that they will win.
That's nice, kid. There are reasons for it. Reasons you will ignore and I'm not gonna bother to share with someone who won't listen anyway.More than double the highest illegal border crossings ever, you fuckin retard!
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Ya but what you are saying is false and wrong.
You absolutely hand waved away Trumps clear lie with a 'ya that is what he said but he was a business man who used debt his whole life'... excuse.
There is no denying you did that even if you want to back track and run away from it now i have called you out, as is your norm.
Andrew Yang can be BOTH a Capitalist, in his work career, but ALSO someone who legitimately and earnestly wants to CHANGE THE SYSTEM. IF he got elected and just ran the country as just a Capitalist and went against everything he campaigned on, then calling him out would be appropriate. You saying 'but he was a Capitalist so what he said versus what he did does not matter', is just stupid.
Of course you would not do that for Yang. You would call him out too. It is ONLY for Trump you ALWAYS reflexively find a way to defend and rationalize what he does as not an issue or a problem.
And in this case you are basically saying 'Trump was a business man and not a Populist, in his career, so he does not, and should not be held or blamed for not living up to his core campaign promises'.
Nothing I am saying is "wrong". I describe the difference between what a politician says and what they can and will do. What we know of Trump, why he didn't care and still doesn't care about debt, for instance.
You say, "But he said something about it."
I say, "Yes, but that doesn't mean he cares about it in any way, or views it any differently than he always has."
You say, "But he said something about it! so there!"
Repeating yourself isn't an argument, ignoring history isn't "deep" and the reality is, what I described actually happened. I recite history, you recite, "But he said!" and then get mad when I point out why it didn't matter to him even though he said it and why he was willing to dismiss it. I will surmise that most politicians also have this same problem, for them debt isn't a tool, it just hasn't mattered to their election because everybody desperately wants their piece of the money they get from the debt.
You should also fully comprehend that Trump is a politician. There is nobody more "insider" than someone who has been President of these United States. When he ran the second time he ran as a politician.
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Nothing I am saying is "wrong". I describe the difference between what a politician says and what they can and will do. What we know of Trump, why he didn't care and still doesn't care about debt, for instance.
You say, "But he said something about it."
I say, "Yes, but that doesn't mean he cares about it in any way, or views it any differently than he always has."
You say, "But he said something about it! so there!"
Repeating yourself isn't an argument, ignoring history isn't "deep" and the reality is, what I described actually happened. I recite history, you recite, "But he said!" and then get mad when I point out why it didn't matter to him even though he said it and why he was willing to dismiss it. I will surmise that most politicians also have this same problem, for them debt isn't a tool, it just hasn't mattered to their election because everybody desperately wants their piece of the money they get from the debt.
NO. And i love that you are trying to weasel out of what you said, because i have shown you how it is wrong and now instead of owning it you try to pivot away from it.
These two posts below by you are what are called "Apologia".
You are acknowledging Trump lied while at the same time hand waving it away with an EXCUSE saying 'because he was a business man who conducted himself one way, then what he promised on the campaign trail is not something we should believe or hold him to account over'.
That is stupid and wrong, despite it being true Trump utilized debt in his private businesses.
It absolutely DOES MATTER what Trump campaigned on and said and no amount of you trying to say now 'Trump gets a complete and total pass for all his Populist promises as it "does not matter what he spoke of" ... is a belief you WOULD ONLY let Trump get away with.
It really doesn't. Every single politician says stuff while campaigning that will never happen. They say things to get elected then act differently. Every danged one of them.
I've even told you why it happens. Some of them even really want those things to happen, but we will forever know that they will not because they get one big thing. Now Trump promised "growth" would get us out of debt that growth would balance the debt we were generating. He is right we need to grow the economy if we are ever going to get out of debt. Where he is wrong is that when it reaches this level of dependency it is no longer a tool.
Yeah, change your name.
Thanks for nothing.
It's sad to see such childishness here. I stopped posting here much for a reason, an now I remember why.
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Saying that while pretending you are not making excuses for them is why i laugh at your stupidity.
What you are doing is called a 'whataboutism'. A way to excuse bad behavior by one by saying 'they all do it'.
Even if we grant every single politician lies on the campaign trail, that DOES NOT MEAN, we should not call them out for clear and major lies.
When Trump says he is the 'peace candidate and will not take the US into wars like Kamila will' and then he turns out to be the biggest NEoCon war hawk POTUS arguably in our lifetimes, goinmg against his clearly stated 'America First' positions, we SHOULD CALL HIM OUT.
That you are trying desperately to create a narrative of 'No, Trump should not be called out on any of that as all politicians lie on the campaign trail', is simply your TDS.
You would not be thinking this absurd 'whataboutism' you are pushing desperately to shield Trump, would have ever applied to Biden and it is only TDS that makes you try and push it now.
Did you ever answer why? If yes, a simple yes will do, and I'll sift through the 12 pages to find it.
l hope it's not because you've been thinking he's telling you the whole truth while exchanging messages with the enemy propaganda from the other side. That would be silly, since part of any war is propaganda from both sides. These days what's different, is the American press used to be cheerleaders during combat operations and critics when it was all over with few exceptions. Trump has to fight a press that is literally parroting the enemies propaganda every day.
When Trump says the people he's talking to are agreeing to (fill in the blanks), that could be true, or it might be propaganda designed to create or increase the division within the IRGC. That's only one example. The problem is, we don't know what Trump knows or the leader of Iran knows and that's for good reason. A patriotic American is on America's side while our boys and girls are in harm's way, and we are very lucky to have all the time and freedom to tear apart the whole war after it's over.
Luckily for me, Trump hasn't given me any reason not to trust that he's acting in America's best interest. If it turns out that he wasn't and he had nefarious reasons for the 'misinformation' I'll be the first to criticize him, if not, I'll get over the propaganda he used, because I'm not a child. That's why I'm wondering what Trump did or didn't do to lose your trust. I'm thinking it must be something else, I just don't know what.
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LEFTIST PROG FUCKTARD RULES OF ENGAGEMENT
1. Demand a link or an explanation of the truth they are objecting to.
2. Promptly reject all explanations as right wing lies. Smoke spin deflect.
3. Ignore any facts presented.
3a. Play dumb and keep others wasting their time trying to enlighten you.
4. Ridicule spelling and typos, punctuation.
5. Attack the person as being juvenile, ie: "are you 12 years old", question their education, intelligence, Age.
6. Employ misdirection.
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6b. attack religion.
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7. Lie, make false assumptions.
8. Play race/gender card/misogynist card.
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10. Play the Nazi/Fascist/bigot card.
11. Make up stuff/So you got nothing?
12. Deny constantly.
13. Reword and repeat.
14. Pretending not to understand, playing ignorant/what did I lie about.
15. When losing, resort to personal attacks.
16. Russia.
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18. You can’t read.
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