This is how you look to the rest of us:
No one to vote for. Trump has betrayed my trust. What options do I have now?
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Oh, just saw this. So your big complaint is that Trump is not cutting the debt fast enough? Or he's spending on stupid shit you don't agree with, right? You actually thought he was going to save his way out of this mess? That is interesting considering you admit he didn't operate that way in business. You can criticize his style but after all, he's the billionaire and I've seen zero evidence he got it from breaking any laws.
If libertarians like Rand Paul had their way, we would be stuck in brutal austerity for the next century. Highest taxes possible to not cause too much growth stagnation, cutting everything except the bare minimum, just to slowly chip away at the debt. Maybe we could hold the line at 2% growth. Anything higher means we're not taxing enough anything lower and we went too far. How does that sound? We would all be miserable penny pinchers while the country stagnated.
That is one way. It is just not the way Trump would ever choose, and it is not the way I would choose either.
Trump understands something basic. America has incredible potential. If we get the oppressive government policies off our back, we can grow our way out of this debt much faster than any austerity plan ever could.
Tell any honest financial guy you have crushing debt and a mountain of bills. His answer will not be 'cut your spending to almost nothing.' His real answer will be simple. Increase your income. Get a better job, get another job, grow what you bring in. That is how you actually get out of debt.
Trump is betting on the same principle for the country. We have the resources, the talent, the ingenuity, and the work ethic. Real freedom and smart policies will unleash growth that makes our current debt look small. Our government has been deliberately slowing that growth for decades with mountains of regulations, terrible trade deals that shipped our manufacturing overseas, and the constant excuse that they are 'protecting' us from another depression.
Fun exercise. If America grew at a steady 10 percent per year while keeping current tax rates, we would eliminate the annual deficit in about four years and pay off the entire national debt in roughly fifteen years. We would then be running massive surpluses.
Crazy idea? Maybe. But we sure as hell will never find out if we put a libertarian in charge who wants to cut everything and hope for the best.
lol. No. This is simply a description of why this guy might be disappointed with Trump. Long ago before y'all were fighting over two octogenarians getting into the office... I informed you why I would not vote for Trump. That reason remains.
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How did Trump betray your trust? I didn't read all the posts so excuse me if someone else had already asked that question.
Are you going to make me guess? You created the thread, I'd expect you to include your reasons. Is that a crazy thought?
It isn't his thread.
I did not create this thread.
You're right, not sure why I thought you did. I could swear the very first post was yours. That said, I was rather distracted when I thought I saw your name on the thread. I just went back now and you're nowhere on the first page. Hilarious.
Thanks Lefty. Good job jumping in. You finally found one you could be right about. You must be on top of the world. Thanks for the laugh and your sharp eye, lol.
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No, President Trump has not kept his core 2024 campaign promises to lower consumer costs. He repeatedly vowed to bring down prices for groceries, gas, electricity, housing, cars, and "all goods" immediately—"starting on day one"—including ending inflation outright, slashing energy/electricity prices by half within 12 months, and making groceries cheaper overall.
Official data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) shows the opposite: consumer prices are higher now than when he took office in January 2025. As of April 2026 (the latest full CPI report), the overall Consumer Price Index (CPI) has risen 3.8% over the prior 12 months—the highest rate since May 2023—and monthly increases continue.
Overall prices: +3.8% year-over-year (up from +3.3% the prior month; earlier in 2026 it had dipped to ~2.4% before spiking). Prices have continued rising since inauguration, not fallen.
Food/groceries: +3.2% overall; food-at-home (groceries) +2.9%. USDA forecasts 3.2–3.4% food price rises for 2026. Some items (e.g., eggs) fell from 2025 peaks due to resolved avian flu outbreaks, but overall grocery costs are up.
Energy/gasoline: +17.9% (gasoline +28.4%; fuel oil +54.3%). National average gas prices reached ~$4.52/gallon by mid-May 2026, up from ~$3.13 at inauguration. This is far from the promised sub-$2/gallon level.
Housing/shelter and electricity: Shelter +3.3%; electricity prices up ~6–7% in recent periods, with forecasts for further residential electricity increases.
Core inflation (excludes food/energy): +2.8% (still above the Fed’s 2% target).
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Omniscience fallacy. Mantra 1a.
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And it happened.
The egg shortage caused by Democrats is over.
The chicken shortage caused by Democrats is over.
The cattle shortage caused by Democrats is still recovering, but it IS recovering.
Trump never promised to end inflation outright.
Trump never promised any thing about electricity prices.
False authority fallacy.
Argument from randU fallacy.
Incoherency.
Gasoline is currently $3.07 (Source: RBOB). The rest is taxes and local shortages caused by Democrats, quite a bit lower than during the Biden/Obama years.
Nope. Inflation does not include food or energy.
Inflation has one and only one cause: creating money faster than wealth is being created.
That's the Federal Reserve, dude.
During the economic depression of Obama/Biden, inflation hit 52%. During the economic depression during the Biden/Obama years, inflation hit 37% (Source: Federal Reserve)
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