Spoke with some lifelong Californians yesterday

The demand is there because people want to live there. Despite what the Reichwingers want to believe about California, it still contains some of the most expensive and desirable real estate on the planet. Unlike their shithole states. lol
Oh, so thats why Owl picked living in the U.P of Michigan otherwise known as the pimple on the asshole of the world. :)
 
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" Ya hey,....oh ya,....we gonna go to Toivo and Uno's tomorrow and drink some beers ayyyyyyyyyy Owl" Bring yer snow shovels ayyyyyeee...

 
We all know more than one person who has felt it absolutely necessary to flee to greener pastures... Florida is a way to go... it is a shame but it's nothing like it used to be....in LA anyway... just talked to anybody who's moved I'll tell you it's the best decision they ever made...
I bailed San Diego in '87, not because it was bad, but because of a woman. But it sure did get bad in fairly short order. If we're being honest, LA has always been a shit hole.
 
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I bailed San Diego in '87, not because it was bad, but because of a woman. But it sure did get bad in fairly short order. If we're being honest, LA has always been a shit hole.
Well that's a good reason to move...lol... I kind of loved Santa Monica and that whole area when I would visit my sister and her family but that was years ago... the first set of kids grew up there the second set they got the heck out...lol... although my brother-in-law had a big practice there and he still goes back occasionally... but they are happy happy to be out...
 
There is no mind like a closed mind that simply deflects from ANYTHING that may be perceived as negative towards they're political party. It is ALWAYS party above ALL ELSE when it comes to these people, reality be damned. A real shame.
Not sure who you are speaking of, but I agree. That is why I am not a Republican or Democrat or any other party, but rather, am an Independent. But nothing would pollute my mind to the point where I would continue to support that fucking abomination currently using the Oval Office presidential chair to house his fat-ass.

That is the only point I was making.
 
Regarding my work. Marina Del Rey. Wife says her family goes back 5 generations. No more. They said they have finally had ENUFF. Leaving for either Texas or Florida,...haven't decided which yet. These are semi " known" people. They will leave a big vacancy when they move. What a damn shame to be basically driven out of the area you love all because of a bunch of corrupt to the core politicians. Terrible.
Oh, I've heard all about it.
Onerous water prices, permitting, mandatory solar if you need a new roof, rolling brownouts all the time..
 
The demand is there because people want to live there. Despite what the Reichwingers want to believe about California, it still contains some of the most expensive and desirable real estate on the planet. Unlike their shithole states. lol
"Shithole" :palm:
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California has lost population within the states for well over a decade. But with births and immigration the state population has continued to grow (outside a couple of years during COVID when it shrunk).

Go back a decade plus and most of the people leaving were middle and working class. Today you are seeing more people with wealth leaving.

Housing prices are so high because there is demand, yes, but also because the state has underbuilt for decades.

California's natural beauty isn't in doubt. It's second to none. It's the quality of life that gets debated.

And yes, the state is a proxy for national political wars. For some the state can do no right, for others no wrong.
 
Oh go ahead and have some balls and really leave Russia would probably take you. .
America is my country...and it remains my country despite that Trump and the morons who continue to support him are doing their best to fuck it up royally.

If you want to go to Russia or China because you love strong men as leaders...it is almost certain that the leaders of those two countries are a hell of a lot stronger than Trump. The only people Trump really is fooling are folk like you.
 
California has lost population within the states for well over a decade. But with births and immigration the state population has continued to grow (outside a couple of years during COVID when it shrunk).

Go back a decade plus and most of the people leaving were middle and working class. Today you are seeing more people with wealth leaving.

Housing prices are so high because there is demand, yes, but also because the state has underbuilt for decades.

California's natural beauty isn't in doubt. It's second to none. It's the quality of life that gets debated.

And yes, the state is a proxy for national political wars. For some the state can do no right, for others no wrong.
I've got lots of relatives who live there. When I visit, I am in wonder of its beauty.

But, as you noted, CA...it has a far right and far left who truly do not like each other...in massive measure.
 
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