Spoke with some lifelong Californians yesterday

L.A. seemed really "Hollywood" to me, with the emphasis on status and looks. S.F. seemed more like a cosmopolitan world city, sophisticated and elegant.
Yes. "Everyone" in L.A. was all waiters and waitresses waiting to be 'discovered' so they could be an actor. And then these guys would all act like they had Hollywood connections to try and impress the girls etc. etc. and it felt like one big fake scene. That's why it was such a culture shock.

Now if you're into the beach lifestyle and love year round great weather then L.A. has a lot to offer. But I'll take NorCal all day long.
 
Yes. "Everyone" in L.A. was all waiters and waitresses waiting to be 'discovered' so they could be an actor. And then these guys would all act like they had Hollywood connections to try and impress the girls etc. etc. and it felt like one big fake scene. That's why it was such a culture shock.

Now if you're into the beach lifestyle and love year round great weather then L.A. has a lot to offer. But I'll take NorCal all day long.

Plus you have the wild parrots of Telegraph Hill!
 
I thought you were going to say "You might have a nice home in Texas, but when you go outside you're still in Texas." :laugh:

You're right. The climate was one of the biggest reasons we chose to move to a cooler region. I have zero heat tolerance but love to be outdoors which wasn't possible in St. Louis from late April/early May through the middle/end of October. Cost of living was #2.
I don't like ice, and I'm not particularly fond of snow, but I can tolerate chilly weather more than oppressive heat and humidity.
 
L.A. seemed really "Hollywood" to me, with the emphasis on status and looks. S.F. seemed more like a cosmopolitan world city, sophisticated and elegant.
In defense of LA, I think it is a world class city in terms of museums, theater, entertainment, sports, outdoor recreation.

I saw a YouTube of a woman who moved back to LA after having been in Dallas for a few years. She said she couldn't wait to get back because the only things to really do in Dallas is go out to eat; she said Texas offers almost nothing in terms of nature & outdoor recreation, or world class artistic and creative vibes.
 
Plus you have the wild parrots of Telegraph Hill!
Haha!

This is totally random but I'll share. Back in '95 a fraternity brother came to SF to stay with me for a weekend. Neither here nor there but this guy came from a rich family in Philly. His dad was a big time trial lawyer and huge Democratic donor so my friend had met many of the party big wigs.

He was a big dead head so I take him to Haight Asbury to the famous Jerry Garcia house. He approaches it, kneels down and kisses the step.

He gets back in the car with tears in his eyes and says "the summer of love changed my life" (mind you he was born in '75).

I was dying, but I appreciated it.
 
Back in 1968 my parents painted up a school bus and headed west to live communally. I was a child who had no say in any of it.

The destination was San Fran but thankfully the summer of love was over so they continued north and settled in Eugene Oregon.

As fucked up as this state has become I thank my lucky stars every day we didn't stop in California to live.
 
Never. Since What does that have to do with your claim?


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Appears someone ^ doesn’t comprehend substance over style, depth over breadth, value over volume
 
Appears someone ^ doesn’t comprehend substance over style, depth over breadth, value over volume

Appears that Anchovies believes his opinions -unsubstantiated by any substance - constitute compelling and persuasive proofs.

Poor Anchovies.
 
In defense of LA, I think it is a world class city in terms of museums, theater, entertainment, sports, outdoor recreation.

I saw a YouTube of a woman who moved back to LA after having been in Dallas for a few years. She said she couldn't wait to get back because the only things to really do in Dallas is go out to eat; she said Texas offers almost nothing in terms of nature & outdoor recreation, or world class artistic and creative vibes.

She's right. My brother lives in Richardson, a suburb of Dallas. He's been there since 1978. He used to spend every morning hiking in nearby parks and open areas, or adjacent empty-of-people areas nearby. Gradually it was more and more built up and paved over till there's nothing left of his haunts. He took pictures of hawks, eagles, Quaker parrots, bobcats, coyotes, foxes. They're gone too. :(
 
She's right. My brother lives in Richardson, a suburb of Dallas. He's been there since 1978. He used to spend every morning hiking in nearby parks and open areas, or adjacent empty-of-people areas nearby. Gradually it was more and more built up and paved over till there's nothing left of his haunts. He took pictures of hawks, eagles, Quaker parrots, bobcats, coyotes, foxes. They're gone too. :(


Another anecdotal account.
 
Haha!

This is totally random but I'll share. Back in '95 a fraternity brother came to SF to stay with me for a weekend. Neither here nor there but this guy came from a rich family in Philly. His dad was a big time trial lawyer and huge Democratic donor so my friend had met many of the party big wigs.

He was a big dead head so I take him to Haight Asbury to the famous Jerry Garcia house. He approaches it, kneels down and kisses the step.

He gets back in the car with tears in his eyes and says "the summer of love changed my life" (mind you he was born in '75).

I was dying, but I appreciated it.

Maybe he meant that's when his parents met. :laugh:
 
She's right. My brother lives in Richardson, a suburb of Dallas. He's been there since 1978. He used to spend every morning hiking in nearby parks and open areas, or adjacent empty-of-people areas nearby. Gradually it was more and more built up and paved over till there's nothing left of his haunts. He took pictures of hawks, eagles, Quaker parrots, bobcats, coyotes, foxes. They're gone too. :(

Texas is infamous for having very little publicly-accessible public land. 96 percent of the state's lands are privately owned. That leaves only 4 percent for public lands.
Most Western states have over 50 percent of their territory designated as public lands. 55 percent of California is public land. 95 percent of Alaska is public land.


 
She's right. My brother lives in Richardson, a suburb of Dallas. He's been there since 1978. He used to spend every morning hiking in nearby parks and open areas, or adjacent empty-of-people areas nearby. Gradually it was more and more built up and paved over till there's nothing left of his haunts. He took pictures of hawks, eagles, Quaker parrots, bobcats, coyotes, foxes. They're gone too. :(
I lived in Dallas (City of) from 1978 - 1981. The school where I went to 1st grade was in the City of Dallas but for whatever reason was in the Richardson school district.

My in-laws live in a suburb between Dallas and Ft. Worth and my old firm invested heavily in Dallas so I spent time there for that as well.

Your brother is not wrong. The growth in DFW is off the charts. Within the next decade it will surpass Chicago as the 3rd largest metro area behind NY and LA.

July and August are hot AF in Dallas. They suck. (I tell my wife if you want to visit your family during those two months count me out.) The place is flat AF as well.

It also has the most financial jobs outside NYC, massive number of large headquarters have relocated there as well as a number of cultural locations (museums, opera etc.) It's ain't SF or NYC but its not some backwater place either. There's a lot going on there.
 
Texas is infamous for having very little publicly-accessible public land. 96 percent of the state's lands are privately owned. That leaves only 4 percent for public lands.
Most Western states have over 50 percent of their territory designated as public lands. 55 percent of California is public land. 95 percent of Alaska is public land.


Look at a map sometime. That's true for virtually all of the US East of the Mississippi and Texas. The US west is where all the government land is, and it's goddamned sin that the government owns most of it.
 
Look at a map sometime. That's true for virtually all of the US East of the Mississippi
Texas isn't east of the Mississippi River.

and Texas. The US west is where all the government land is, and it's goddamned sin that the government owns most of it.
AI reports that 14-15 percent of New York State is public land, 19-20 percent of Vermont is public lands, and 22 percent of Michigan is set aside for public lands.

Texas is infamous and anonymously low in the amount they preserve for public land, at only 4 percent.
 
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