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AProudLefty said:
How's the bloated government going?
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Thanks for putting up another democrat fiasco that took it to another bloated upper level under the biden administration. Under Elon Musk and his DOGE team--bloated government and fraudulent government during the biden administration was and still is being investigated by Trump's current team. Tampon Tim's fraudulent government has used tax payers monies to give their Somali people all kinds of riches. Same shit is going on in Kalifornicator under the newscum leadership.
 
Libhater said:
Thanks for putting up another democrat fiasco that took it to another bloated upper level under the biden administration. Under Elon Musk and his DOGE team--bloated government and fraudulent government during the biden administration was and still is being investigated by Trump's current team. Tampon Tim's fraudulent government has used tax payers monies to give their Somali people all kinds of riches. Same shit is going on in Kalifornicator under the newscum leadership.
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The statement mixes some verifiable facts with heavy exaggeration, partisan framing, conspiracy-like generalizations, and inflammatory rhetoric ("Somali people all kinds of riches," "Kalifornicator," "Newscum"). It's not a neutral analysis but a typical forum rant. Here's a breakdown based on available evidence:
Minnesota/"Tampon Tim" (Tim Walz) and Somali Community Fraud
"Tampon Tim": This is a real Republican nickname for Walz, stemming from a 2023 Minnesota law he signed requiring public schools (grades 4–12) to provide free menstrual products (pads/tampons) in all bathrooms, including boys'. Critics called it overreach or inappropriate.aacd55
Fraud claims: There is substantial evidence of major fraud in Minnesota's social services programs (child nutrition via Feeding Our Future, Medicaid/daycare, autism therapy, housing). Estimates for stolen taxpayer funds exceed $1 billion across schemes, with dozens convicted (many via pleas) and more charged. A large majority of defendants in key cases are of Somali descent (e.g., ~78/86 in one report; 65+ convictions noted). Money allegedly funded luxury purchases, overseas transfers, and some links to fraud networks. Federal probes, congressional hearings, and Trump admin actions (pausing funding, scrutiny) followed.17dafc
Walz's role: The scandals occurred under his watch as governor. Critics (including Republicans and some investigators) argue state oversight was lax, whistleblowers ignored, and action was mostly federal due to political sensitivities around the Somali community (a growing voting bloc). Walz and Democrats have pushed back, calling broad blame "racist" and welcoming federal probes while defending the community at large. Not every Somali Minnesotan (community ~80k) is involved—it's specific bad actors exploiting programs—but the scale and ethnic concentration are documented.3a2514
This part has a core of truth on waste/fraud and ethnic patterns in prosecutions, but the phrasing "give their Somali people all kinds of riches" overgeneralizes criminal fraud as official policy favoritism. Oversight failures enabled it, not necessarily deliberate "riches" distribution.
Biden Administration "Bloated/Fraudulent" Government
Federal spending did grow significantly under Biden (post-COVID baseline). Estimates: ~$4.7 trillion in new spending/debt from policies, with deficits and debt rising. Government outlays as % of GDP stayed elevated vs. pre-pandemic norms. Waste, improper payments, and fraud in federal programs (e.g., pandemic relief) were real issues across administrations.596a4b
DOGE (Musk/Vivek under Trump) exists to target this—focusing on cuts, efficiency, fraud. Investigations into prior waste continue. Claims of "another bloated upper level" align with conservative critiques of spending growth, but "fiasco" and universal fraud are subjective. Both parties have contributed to long-term debt trends.
California under Newsom
California has expansive immigrant support (Medi-Cal expansions, legal services, humanitarian aid). Newsom has funded programs for immigrants/refugees amid federal changes. There are Somali communities and general welfare/immigration spending, but no equivalent massive, Somali-specific fraud scandal matching Minnesota's scale in the results. Claims mirror broader debates on state spending, sanctuary policies, and budgets under strain.538b27
Overall accuracy: Partially grounded in real issues (MN fraud scale, federal spending growth, DOGE scrutiny) but not fully accurate due to cherry-picking, ethnic stereotyping ("their Somali people"), and treating correlated fraud as coordinated Democratic giveaway. Fraud happens in many communities/programs; Minnesota's stands out for volume and patterns. Government bloat/waste is bipartisan. Hyperbolic language reduces credibility.
Truth-seeking view: Large-scale welfare fraud is a serious problem needing better oversight regardless of perpetrator background—ethnic concentrations can reflect community networks in specific programs, not inherent traits. Both administrations face valid efficiency critiques. Focus on data, prosecutions, and systemic fixes beats partisan slogans.
 
Libhater said:
There were zero equal rights for Republicans/Conservatives/Trump et al in getting their time on any of those fake news outlets and other media outlets. Trump and Elon actually got banned from some of them. No equal rights there fella.
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What are you talking about? Give examples.
 
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