Shit Elon says
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“If you can post any proof that without Elon he wouldn’t know what to think or do”
It appears the people who voted for Brexit were wrong. Careful what you wish for.
The UK's immigration system is governed by a points-based framework introduced after Brexit, replacing free movement with rules managed by UK Visas and Immigration. It includes routes for work, study, family reunion, and asylum, with recent changes such as tighter job sponsorship lists and longer qualifying periods for permanent settlement.
Overview of UK Immigration Laws
The immigration laws in the United Kingdom are primarily governed by a points-based system that was introduced following Brexit. This system replaced the previous free movement rights that EU citizens enjoyed before the UK's exit from the European Union.
Key Features of the Points-Based System
- Points-Based Framework: The system assesses applicants based on specific criteria, including skills, salaries, and qualifications.
- Visa Categories: There are various visa routes available, including those for work, study, family reunion, and asylum.
- Sponsorship Requirements: Employers and educational institutions must be licensed to sponsor migrants, ensuring compliance with immigration rules.
Recent Changes in Immigration Laws
Tighter Job Sponsorship
- The list of jobs eligible for sponsorship under the Skilled Worker visa has been shortened, making it more challenging for employers to recruit from abroad.
- Certain exemptions, such as for social care workers, have been removed.
Qualifying Periods for Permanent Settlement
- The government has proposed longer qualifying periods for individuals seeking indefinite leave to remain in the UK.
- New minimum criteria include not having a criminal conviction and meeting specific income thresholds over several years.
Immigration Routes
| Work Visas | For skilled workers, requiring sponsorship from employers. |
| Student Visas | For individuals seeking to study in the UK. |
| Family Reunion | Allows family members of migrants to join them in the UK. |
| Asylum | For individuals seeking refuge from persecution. |
The UK's immigration laws are continuously evolving, reflecting changes in government policy and societal needs. Understanding these laws is crucial for anyone looking to live, work, or study in the UK.
It appears the people who voted for Brexit were wrong. Careful what you wish for.
The UK's immigration system is governed by a points-based framework introduced after Brexit, replacing free movement with rules managed by UK Visas and Immigration. It includes routes for work, study, family reunion, and asylum, with recent changes such as tighter job sponsorship lists and longer qualifying periods for permanent settlement.
UK Parliament
davidsonmorris.com
Overview of UK Immigration Laws
The immigration laws in the United Kingdom are primarily governed by a points-based system that was introduced following Brexit. This system replaced the previous free movement rights that EU citizens enjoyed before the UK's exit from the European Union.
Key Features of the Points-Based System
- Points-Based Framework: The system assesses applicants based on specific criteria, including skills, salaries, and qualifications.
- Visa Categories: There are various visa routes available, including those for work, study, family reunion, and asylum.
- Sponsorship Requirements: Employers and educational institutions must be licensed to sponsor migrants, ensuring compliance with immigration rules.
Recent Changes in Immigration Laws
Tighter Job Sponsorship
- The list of jobs eligible for sponsorship under the Skilled Worker visa has been shortened, making it more challenging for employers to recruit from abroad.
- Certain exemptions, such as for social care workers, have been removed.
Qualifying Periods for Permanent Settlement
- The government has proposed longer qualifying periods for individuals seeking indefinite leave to remain in the UK.
- New minimum criteria include not having a criminal conviction and meeting specific income thresholds over several years.
Immigration Routes
Work Visas For skilled workers, requiring sponsorship from employers. Student Visas For individuals seeking to study in the UK. Family Reunion Allows family members of migrants to join them in the UK. Asylum For individuals seeking refuge from persecution.
The UK's immigration laws are continuously evolving, reflecting changes in government policy and societal needs. Understanding these laws is crucial for anyone looking to live, work, or study in the UK.
Grok, analytically assess this post: https://www.justplainpolitics.com/threads/shit-elon-says.248606/post-7013366
The post is a low-effort partisan rebuttal. It accurately describes the mechanism of post-Brexit immigration but ignores outcomes (high net migration, persistent public discontent) that validate skepticism like Elon's.
Brexit delivered sovereignty; results depend on implementation.
Elon's agreement with the "no consent" framing highlights a real tension in representative democracy on high-stakes, low-salience issues.
Effective counter would require data showing points-based success in reducing strains, not just listing rules.
Worded differently: "migration from non-EU countries to the uk after brexit"
"After Brexit, non-EU migration to the UK rose sharply, with net migration reaching 171,000 in 2025 and 67% of non-EU immigration for work and study purposes.
University of Oxford
ukandeu.ac.uk
Overview of Non-EU Migration to the UK Post-Brexit
After Brexit, the UK saw a significant increase in non-EU migration. This shift was influenced by the new immigration policies implemented in January 2021, which established a points-based system for all migrants, including those from the EU.
Key Statistics
| 2025 | 171,000 | 67% |
Factors Influencing Non-EU Migration
- New Immigration System: The introduction of a points-based immigration system aimed to attract skilled workers and students from non-EU countries.
- Work and Study Purposes: A significant portion of non-EU migrants came for employment and educational opportunities, with 67% of non-EU immigration in 2025 attributed to these reasons.
- Economic Conditions: The demand for skilled labor in the UK and the state of the economies in migrants' home countries also played a crucial role in migration patterns.
Comparison with EU Migration
- Decline in EU Migration: In contrast to the rise in non-EU migration, net migration from EU countries turned negative in 2022, with more EU nationals leaving the UK than arriving.
- Impact of Brexit: The end of free movement for EU citizens led to stricter immigration controls, which contributed to the decline in EU migration while non-EU migration increased.
Grok:
Nice pivot, Christiecrite. You just proved the point: Brexit gave control, but post-Brexit governments used the points system to deliver high non-EU inflows anyway.
Voters wanted less overall migration and better assimilation—not a swap from EU free movement to non-EU surges.
The "rise sharply" data you posted undercuts your own earlier "they got what they wished for" claim.
Elon's "True" was about consent and elite priorities, not the mechanics of visa paperwork.
T. A. Gardner
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You do know, that today it is harder to get into the UK from the US than it is from India or Pakistan don't you?
Why is that?