Would America Be Better Off with More Religion?

[Crepitus]

Obviously, you are not a fan of Jews.


Again, no one cares about with whom you have issues, hence why it was not asked.


Now you have piqued my interest.

1. Define "Evangelical", or are you posting like a typical ignorant leftist who simply hurls categories as slurs because he doesn't really understand anything?

2. What issues do you have with the as-of-yet undefined "Evangelicals" that you don't have with "Jews"? Are you assuming that "Jews" are political leftists and therefore their religious beliefs are acceptable, even though they are similar or identical to the religious beliefs of the as-of-yet undefined but presumed conservative "Evangelicals" (e.g. Baptists)?

- 2a. Do you HATE the as-of-yet undefined "Evangelicals" because they include Baptists who are mostly "black"? Are you totally RACIST? Is that why you HATE the as-of-yet undefined "Evangelicals"?


I'm following your lead, as always. My questions stem from your comments.

1. Define "Evangelical", or are you posting like a typical ignorant leftist who simply hurls categories as slurs because he doesn't really understand anything?

The Evangenitals are the most ardent tRump supporting religious group.

And they have earned their nickname many times over.

 

[Cypress]

Did you actually learn any fundamental physics? I think not!

ftfy....I learned enough to be employed as a geophysicist in the exploration division of a multinational oil company.

 

[Melchizedek=Tecumseh]

Sure, there is American patriotism, but I'm not aware of any such thing as Christian patriotism, and I don't think you can find any American Christian who somehow confuses his patriotism with his Christian faith.

I think you mistaked when you tried posting in English. What is your native language?

 

[Melchizedek=Tecumseh]

Are you a fan of Jews?

I'm a fan of the Jews! I don't really identify with Gentile Organized Christianity. Even though I few Jesus as Messiah, Judaism is the only "religion" ,I'm associated with. I'm not Muslim,but I believe YHWH is Allah.

 

[Melchizedek=Tecumseh]

The Evangenitals are the most ardent tRump supporting religious group.

And they have earned their nickname many times over.

"Many come in my name but they aren't mine"!

 

[Melchizedek=Tecumseh]

The Evangenitals are the most ardent tRump supporting religious group.

And they have earned their nickname many times over.

 

[Taichiliberal]

You can't "recognize" your African/Asian folk's building blocks without giving 100% credit to the fundamental cornerstone carved out by the Australopithecus. Period.

You can't "recognize" your Australopithecus cornerstone without giving 100% credit to the foundation laid by Ardipithecus Ramidus. Period.

So? It's called evolution. How does this alter in any way, shape or fashion what I previously stated?

 

[Taichiliberal]

Rresponse to esch

I don't think any fair minded person could read anything I wrote as saying other civilizations outside of Western Europe were dumb.

I'm not even of Western European descent.

It's not taking anything away from ancient Mayan astronomers, or the Arab mathematician al-Khwarizmi to say that all the fundamental physics I learned in college was from Newton, Maxwell, and Einstein; all the fundamental chemistry I learned was from Dalton, Lavoisier, Mendeleev; all the fundamental biology I learned was from Darwin, Linnaeus, Mendel; all the fundamental geology I learned was from Hutton and Lyell.

And it's just a simply fact of history that western models of universities and science are what was ultimately adopted in Japan, China, and India.

I think all I mentioned previously were universities and modern science.

That doesn't take away anything from the accomplishments of other civilizations.

Response to each paragraph:

1. Nor can any fair minded person read my responses an claim that I accused you of such.

2. Irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

3. A moot point that DOES NOT erase what I stated. Also note that colonialism and imperialism can result on a cultural bias regarding how a society evolved to present day. Case in point, how the MOORS contributed to modern day Spain.

4. Do you think there are no universities and modern science across the Asian and African continents that are not based in their own history? Prior to the communist revolution, it is said that Chinese medicine had treatments and cures for certain types of cancers. Like I previously said. Euro-Western medicine STILL doesn’t fully understand how acupuncture works.

5. See #1- 4.

 

[Cypress]

Rresponse to esch

Response to each paragraph:

1. Nor can any fair minded person read my responses an claim that I accused you of such.

2. Irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

3. A moot point that DOES NOT erase what I stated. Also note that colonialism and imperialism can result on a cultural bias regarding how a society evolved to present day. Case in point, how the MOORS contributed to modern day Spain.

4. Do you think there are no universities and modern science across the Asian and African continents that are not based in their own history? Prior to the communist revolution, it is said that Chinese medicine had treatments and cures for certain types of cancers. Like I previously said. Euro-Western medicine STILL doesn’t fully understand how acupuncture works.

5. See #1- 4.

Chinese and Japanese physicists learned the same physics I did at college: Newton, Maxwell, Einstein, Bohr, Schroedinger.

Now once you get into the modern physics of the 20th century, Japanese, Indian, and Muslim physicists have been winning Nobel prizes hand over fist.

The ancient Mayans, Indians, and Arabs had tremendous achievements in mathematics and astronomy, and cannot be discounted.

But I wasn't taught Mayan astronomy or Chinese metaphysics in college, and neither were any other science majors, unless it was as a historical curiosity.

It's not an affront to just be honest and admit to myself that the fundamental physics, chemistry, and biology I learned in college developed in the West. In fact, my ancestors in the Eastern European steppes admitted to themselves they had to go to Western Europe to import the Enlightenment ideas of science and education. Peter the Great went to extensive efforts to bring western science and knowledge to feudal Russia.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Chinese and Japanese physicists learned the same physics I did at college: Newton, Maxwell, Einstein, Bohr, Schroedinger.

Now once you get into the modern physics of the 20th century, Japanese, Indian, and Muslim physicists have been winning Nobel prizes hand over fist.

The ancient Mayans, Indians, and Arabs had tremendous achievements in mathematics and astronomy, and cannot be discounted.

But I wasn't taught Mayan astronomy or Chinese metaphysics in college, and neither were any other science majors, unless it was as a historical curiosity.

It's not an affront to just be honest and admit to myself that the fundamental physics, chemistry, and biology I learned in college developed in the West. In fact, my ancestors in the Eastern European steppes admitted to themselves they had to go to Western Europe to import the Enlightenment ideas of science and education. Peter the Great went to extensive efforts to bring western science and knowledge to feudal Russia.

You're either are trying to side step my orevious points or aren't getting them. The following should clarify my position:

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/9020/686062934507dc84b0d5f67b31d5d69b8271.pdf

How African Indigenous knowledge helped shape modern medicine

In the 1700s, an enslaved man named Onesimus shared a novel way to stave off smallpox during the Boston epidemic. Here’s his little-told story, and how the Atlantic slave trade and Indigenous medicine influenced early modern science.

www.pbs.org

Historic Measures: How Standards and Technology Enabled the Inca Empire to Thrive

In honor of National Hispanic Heritage Month, a reflection on the achievements of the Inca of the South American Andes.

www.nist.gov

 

[IBDaMann]

The Evangenitals are the most ardent tRump supporting religious group.

Look everyone! @Crepitus insists that Baptists are Trump's most ARDENT SUPPORTERS.

The genius of the left is awe-inspiring.

And they have earned their nickname many times over.

What are your nicknames for "Blacks"?

 

[IBDaMann]

[stupid graphic omitted]

So you and I agree, i.e. there is no such thing as Christian Nationalism.

 

[AProudLefty]

So you and I agree, i.e. there is no such thing as Christian Nationalism.

Is that so? Why is it, then, your side been talking about it?

 

[IBDaMann]

I'm a fan of the Jews!

Great. Crepitus is not.

I don't really identify with Gentile Organized Christianity.

Is this supposed to mean something?

Even though I few Jesus as Messiah,

What is your first language?

Judaism is the only "religion" ,I'm associated with.

In what way are you "associated" with Judaism?

I'm not Muslim,but I believe YHWH is Allah.

Apparently nobody ever told you that they were different gods. Allah is the modern name for a former moon deity, and God/Dios is the modern name for the YHWH deity.

 

[IBDaMann]

Is that so? Why is it, then, your side been talking about it?

I don't have a side. What are these little voices you are hearing?

Oooops! You're deaf. You don't hear voices. You simply fabricate shit.

 

[IBDaMann]

So? It's called evolution.

What is? What is "it"?

How does this alter in any way, shape or fashion what I previously stated?

It doesn't alter the totally meaningless thing you wrote in any way whatsoever.

 

[AProudLefty]

I don't have a side. What are these little voices you are hearing?

Oooops! You're deaf. You don't hear voices. You simply fabricate shit.

Boring.

 

[IBDaMann]

1. Nor can any fair minded person read my responses an claim that I accused you of such.

Because you didn't say anything.

2. Irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

Cypress can't say anything of any relevance that is correct.

3. A moot point that DOES NOT erase what I stated.

His point about your non-statement was moot because you hadn't said anything.

Also note that colonialism and imperialism can result on a cultural bias regarding how a society evolved to present day.

Gibberish that says nothing.

Case in point, how the MOORS contributed to modern day Spain.

"Influence" ≠ "colonialism"
"influence" ≠ "imperialism"

Your posts, once parsed, usually don't say anything accurate or truthful.

4. Do you think there are no universities and modern science across the Asian and African continents that are not based in their own history?

Did you really need to obscure your point behind a double-negative rhetorical? Why didn't you qualify whether any such universities were any good?

Prior to the communist revolution, it is said ...

Well, since you put it that way, it clearly must be true.

... that Chinese medicine had treatments and cures for certain types of cancers.

... and it was all buried by Big Pharma in a capitalistic cover-up, and those who deny this are definite conspiracy theorists.

Like I previously said. Euro-Western medicine STILL doesn’t fully understand how acupuncture works.

Au contraire, mon frère, everybody fully understands how faith-healing works.

 

[IBDaMann]

Boring.

Zzzzzzzz.

 

[Melchizedek=Tecumseh]

So you and I agree, i.e. there is no such thing as Christian Nationalism.

Ever watch the news