I said it is performed for the convenience of the mother. The facts back me up.You claimed they have abortion as a convenience. I destroyed your claim.
So no sex for you. Are you celibate? It's your choice. We are sexual beings and it feels good.
Logic doesn't follow. Gamblers know the risks and they don't have any kind of protection.
Infants are born by definition.
The fetuses have the potential to become babies.
How do I concede to what doesn't exist?
Well by definition unwanted pregnancy is inconvenient. So? It's circular. That's the reason for birth control.I said it is performed for the convenience of the mother. The facts back me up.
So you want everyone to be celibate?Your second sentence proves my point. Having sex runs the risk of getting pregnant. She knows the risks, yet does it anyway.
That makes no sense. That's like saying a seed is a tree.Yes, fetuses have the potential to become babies, and if you don't interrupt that potential with murdering them then they are a baby.
You keep saying that. Concede what?You have lost the argument, but you keep floundering.
I accept your concession.
I am not telling anyone what to do. What I am saying is that if someone doesn't want an unwanted pregnancy, there is a foolproof way to prevent.Well by definition unwanted pregnancy is inconvenient. So? It's circular. That's the reason for birth control.
So you want everyone to be celibate?
That makes no sense. That's like saying a seed is a tree.
You keep saying that. Concede what?
Not 100% foolproof but ok. It goes without saying that no sex means no pregnancy.I am not telling anyone what to do. What I am saying is that if someone doesn't want an unwanted pregnancy, there is a foolproof way to prevent.
Goes without saying.Can we agree on that? Not having sex will 100% lead to not getting pregnancy? Can you admit that much?
Hence the reason for abortion.Not other method is 100% foolproof is it?
then why not go with the method that is 100% foolproofNot 100% foolproof but ok. It goes without saying that no sex means no pregnancy.
Goes without saying.
Hence the reason for abortion.
Already explained. You cannot stop human nature.then why not go with the method that is 100% foolproof
Never disagreed with that except in the case of rape and incest.In this post you have literally conceded all of my major points
1) Unwanted pregnancy is 100% avoidable by abstinence
As I have already stated unwanted pregnancy is inconvenient. Even if they are extremely careful, it still can happen.2) Almost all abortions are out of convenience because people don't practice #1
I asked for stats on that.Abortion is nothing more than a means to not take responsibility or consequences of ones actions.
How do you murder a non sentient thing?That it requires murder makes it immoral
Who says it isn’t sentient?Already explained. You cannot stop human nature.
Never disagreed with that except in the case of rape and incest.
As I have already stated unwanted pregnancy is inconvenient. Even if they are extremely careful, it still can happen.
I asked for stats on that.
How do you murder a non sentient thing?
They will not say. Not based on science. Not base on biology. The left can only speak to some left wing social media post for "proof ".Who says it isn’t sentient?
How is is sentient if it has no brain or not developed?Who says it isn’t sentient?

Show how fertilized egg is sentient.They will not say. Not based on science. Not base on biology. The left can only speak to some left wing social media post for "proof ".
Show that it is not.....Show how fertilized egg is sentient.
Says who? Conscience is a process of the brain. Who knows exactly when that starts?Okay. It has no brain.
That was too easy.
Talking about soul?Says who? Conscience is a process of the brain. Who knows exactly when that starts?
That is all about what one believes. There is no plausible , defined differences between the soul and consciousness.Talking about soul?
I do believe that we have souls.That is all about what one believes. There is no plausible , defined differences between the soul and consciousness.
They do not seem to understand basic biological science. It is just sad. Rather than debate the issues of the day, we are stuck having to explain to them basic biology over and over again.Something they excel at, led by Fox "News."
I wonder why the forced-birthers' insistence that it is a "baby" when it's microscpic is an okay emotional argument.
But when a pro-choice person argues for social welfare programs emotionally, they should be disregarded.