How do board leftists feel about the socialists taking over the party?

Jarod said:
I have no idea if there are or are not.such a position has nothing to do with socialism.
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It's a defining position of DSAs. Even in local races, DSAs emphasize the Israel - Palestine conflict and most/almost all candidates declare Israel's action to be genocide, which is not the case with many other more mainstream Democratic candidates.
 
archives said:
Been there, does that, several times now, you can lead a horse to water but you can not …………..
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You have YET to answer that Archives. Just flailing around aimlessly like all democrats honestly. What part of "socialism " in this country funds itself? Your claim. Here, let me help you. NONE. You and all dumb fuck democrats need to learn just the damn basics about what pays for everything in this country.
 
Sailor said:
You have YET to answer that Archives. Just flailing around aimlessly like all democrats honestly. What part of "socialism " in this country funds itself? Your claim. Here, let me help you. NONE. You and all dumb fuck democrats need to learn just the damn basics about what pays for everything in this country.
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Poopeye, you're just too fucking stupid to understand what the word socialist mean.
 
cawacko said:
It's a defining position of DSAs. Even in local races, DSAs emphasize the Israel - Palestine conflict and most/almost all candidates declare Israel's action to be genocide, which is not the case with many other more mainstream Democratic candidates.
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Ok, but it is not what those words mean.
 
Jarod said:
Ok, but it is not what those words mean.
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Ok? It is a defining position of today’s DSAs.

I want to be clear I’m not trying to attack you here. But I will ask, are you familiar with DSAs and what they stand for and believe?
 
Teflon Don said:
Don’t have to be. They are driving your party now
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Q. Grok, are "Democratic Socialists driving the Democrat Party now"?

A. No, not in the sense of fully controlling or "driving" the national Democrat Party.

Democrat Socialists of America (DSA) and aligned progressives have significantly increased their influence within the party's left wing, particularly in safe urban districts and through primaries, but they remain a faction—not the dominant force shaping national strategy, leadership, or electability in competitive races.


Evidence of growing DSA influence​


  • Electoral wins: DSA has scored notable primary victories in 2026, especially in deep-blue areas. Examples include multiple NYC congressional primaries (e.g., Claire Valdez, Darializa Avila Chevalier), Colorado's Melat Kiros unseating an incumbent, and other local/state successes. NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani (DSA-aligned) has boosted this. Over 30 DSA-endorsed candidates won primaries in 2026 cycles, with the group backing ~150 candidates.
  • Congress: Currently ~2 explicit DSA members (AOC, Rashida Tlaib). 2026 primaries could roughly double that in safe seats. Over 250 DSA members hold public office nationwide (mostly local/city), with 90% elected post-2019.
  • Membership & activism: DSA grew from ~6k pre-2016 to 100k+ by 2026, fueled by Bernie Sanders' campaigns, post-2024 frustration, and grassroots organizing. They focus on primaries against "corporate Democrats," issues like rent control, universal programs, taxing the rich, and anti-corporate stances.
  • Ideological trends: Democrats (especially younger/college-educated) view "socialism" more favorably than in the past—Gallup shows ~66% positive among Democrats vs. 42% for capitalism. Progressives have shifted the Overton window on issues like Medicare expansion, Green New Deal elements, and wealth taxes.

Limits on "driving" the party​


  • Geography and electability: Wins cluster in heavily Democrat urban enclaves (NYC, Chicago, Portland, etc.) where primaries decide everything. Success in swing districts or nationally is rarer. Democrats' 2024 losses (White House, Congress) highlighted risks of overreach on cultural/economic issues alienating moderates, working-class, and minority voters.
  • Party structure: National leadership, Senate/House strategy, and donor base remain more moderate/establishment (Third Way, Clinton-Obama legacy influences). Factions include moderates prioritizing fiscal restraint, institutions, and broad appeal vs. progressives pushing systemic overhaul. Many Democrats frame the divide as "fighters vs. folders" rather than pure ideology.
  • Broader base: Most Democrat voters and officials are liberals/progressives but not full democrat socialists (DSA platform seeks worker control, beyond social democracy, critiquing capitalism structurally). The party platform and governing record emphasize regulated capitalism, welfare expansions, and social liberalism—not nationalization or "seizing the means."
  • Counterpressures: Super PACs, incumbents, and voters in purple areas push back. Post-2024 soul-searching includes warnings that over-reliance on urban left activism limits national viability.

In summary, DSA is ascendant on the activist left and in blue strongholds—pushing the party further left on economics and primaries—but the national Democrat Party is a big-tent coalition still balancing moderates, unions, minorities, and suburban voters. It's a contested evolution, not a completed takeover.

Outcomes in 2026 midterms and 2028 will test whether this energy expands the coalition or repeats recent losses. Both major parties face internal insurgencies challenging establishments; results depend on delivering tangible results to voters beyond safe seats.



 
cawacko said:
Ok? It is a defining position of today’s DSAs.

I want to be clear I’m not trying to attack you here. But I will ask, are you familiar with DSAs and what they stand for and believe?
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I am not, I am familiar with what Democratic Socialism is, not the American party itself.
 
cawacko said:
Ok? It is a defining position of today’s DSAs.

I want to be clear I’m not trying to attack you here. But I will ask, are you familiar with DSAs and what they stand for and believe?
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Can you find me there website. I see the DSA website, that is all about what I call Democratic Socialists of America, they mention nothing about Palestine or Israel.
 
Jarod said:
I am not, I am familiar with what Democratic Socialism is, not the American party itself.
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Fair enough. I guess I'm just surprised that as a political junkie and a Democrat you aren't that familiar with this part of your party. You have DSAs winning offices on the coasts, and now they're making headway in Colorado. And of course you have Bernie and AOC prior to this past year's gains.

You even hear some mainstream Democrats speaking out against them.

Given all that, that's why I'm surprised.
 
cawacko said:
Fair enough. I guess I'm just surprised that as a political junkie and a Democrat you aren't that familiar with this part of your party. You have DSAs winning offices on the coasts, and now they're making headway in Colorado. And of course you have Bernie and AOC prior to this past year's gains.

You even hear some mainstream Democrats speaking out against them.

Given all that, that's why I'm surprised.
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I saw the DSA's website, and saw nothing about Palestine. Am I looking at the right place?
 
Jarod said:
I saw the DSA's website, and saw nothing about Palestine. Am I looking at the right place?
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cawacko said:
Fair enough. I guess I'm just surprised that as a political junkie and a Democrat you aren't that familiar with this part of your party. You have DSAs winning offices on the coasts, and now they're making headway in Colorado. And of course you have Bernie and AOC prior to this past year's gains.

You even hear some mainstream Democrats speaking out against them.

Given all that, that's why I'm surprised.
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This is all I found. . .

FREE PALESTINE​

An immediate and permanent ceasefire in Gaza, an end to military and economic aid, and weapons sales to Israel, respect of the authority of the International Criminal Court and the International Court of Justice, and national sovereignty for the Palestinian people.

I agree that Palestine should have a state. I do not believe they should threaten Israel. Ballance.
 
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