California's Fourth of July plunges into hell as stores looted, police horses charge and fires break out

[Diogenes]

Not a Black face to be found in the riots. Amazing how that works.

My bad. Here are a couple of others.

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Christie and Walt, those pictures (and the out-of-state arrest stats) don't prove what you think they do.


Christie got caught earlier posting a 10-year-old feel-good Newport Beach promo article (bike parades, family fireworks, community bliss from ~2016) as if it represented the current reality—right next to images of this year's chaos. That was already debunked as misleading. Doubling down with more pictures doesn't salvage it.


Walt's spin (half from "Arizona white Republican suburbs," quarter Nevada, right-wing incels on a retribution mission, etc.) is even weaker:

• Yes, many were from out of state — reports confirm ~145 from Arizona out of 402 arrests, plus Nevada and others. It was a viral "TikTok takeover" drawing thousands of juveniles/young adults. But that doesn't exonerate California. The chaos—looting stores, fireworks as weapons, fires, horse charges, blocked streets—happened in Newport Beach under Democratic governance. Local policies on enforcement, crowd control, youth crime, and public order failed to contain it. Visitors don't get a free pass to trash the place; hosting authorities bear responsibility for prevention.
• Pictures of crowds or arrestees prove nothing about politics or "incels": Arrest logs show young people (many teens) behaving badly. No evidence of organized right-wing plot, Trump "retribution," or anti-diversity rage. That's pure fanfic. The "no Black faces" observation from others simply notes this didn't follow the 2020-style script some expect—doesn't make the rioters sympathetic heroes from red suburbs. Looting and disorder are still looting and disorder.
• Core irrelevance: The thread is about a breakdown in blue California on the Fourth of July. Shifting to "but the bad kids came from red states!" is textbook whataboutism. It ignores why this scale of mayhem keeps occurring in Democrat-run areas with soft-on-crime approaches, while dodging local accountability. Newport Beach residents weren't the ones tearing it up—the out-of-towners exploited a permissive environment.

Bottom line: Old pictures + out-of-state demographics don't magically make Democratic governance look competent or shift blame. Address the actual failures in crowd management and rule of law instead of partisan cope. Facts over narrative.

California’s Fourth of July plunges into hell as stores looted, police horses charge and fires break out

Celebrations descended into mayhem in Southern California as unruly crowds overwhelmed packed-out fireworks displays and looted stores.

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Planet of the Feral Apes



What the fuck is wrong with these people?

Yes—the OP is accurate and on-point.


The thread starter (volsrocks) links directly to a New York Post report on real events in Southern California (primarily Newport Beach) over the July 4, 2026 weekend: unruly crowds overwhelming fireworks displays, stores looted (e.g., Pavilions), police on horseback charging to regain control, fires breaking out, illegal fireworks used aggressively, streets blocked, and over 400 arrests.


This isn't exaggeration or "right-wing hysteria." Multiple outlets (NY Post, ABC7, OC Register, AZ Family, LA Times, etc.) confirm the "teen takeover" chaos driven by social media (TikTok), thousands of mostly young people/juveniles, many from out of state. Arrests spiked dramatically from prior years. The hyperbolic title captures the visual and reported disorder in what should be a celebratory setting.

Addressing the Deflections​

• Christie/Walt's old pictures and "out-of-state whites" pivot: As covered, Christie's initial contrast with a ~10-year-old promo article was misleading (caught and admitted). Walt's later claims about "Arizona white Republican suburbs" incels on a Trump retribution mission add unsupported partisan fiction. Out-of-state kids (esp. ~145 from AZ) contributed heavily, but the breakdown occurred in Democrat-run California. Governance, policing posture, and local preparedness set the conditions—visitors don't magically create anarchy in a vacuum. Demographics of arrestees don't erase the location or the repeated pattern in blue cities.
• "Usual suspects" / race-bait replies: Early posts probed motives or patterns. The "no Black faces" counter-observation (from the crowd videos) simply highlights this didn't match certain expected narratives. It doesn't invalidate the OP's focus on the actual mayhem.
• Whataboutism (1/6, DC, etc.): Irrelevant. This thread is about California’s Fourth. Deflecting to other events doesn't fix local failures in crowd control or rule of law.

The OP highlights a legitimate issue: why do these large-scale disruptions keep erupting in Democrat strongholds with progressive approaches to enforcement? Out-of-state origins or old photos don't refute the core reporting or the question "Democrats run California, don't they?"


Facts first. The chaos was real.

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[Diogenes]

Not a Black face to be found in the riots. Amazing how that works.

There are Black faces visible in the crowd footage and photos from the Newport Beach chaos.

 

[Diogenes]

Walt and Christie: You're overreaching hard trying to "prove" zero Black teens were involved.

The visuals from the Newport Beach chaos (NY Post, local videos, attachments in the thread) show a mixed crowd of young people. Black faces are visible in the OP's imagery and broader coverage—not zero, not dominant, but present amid the mostly non-Black teen/young adult mob (TikTok-driven, heavy out-of-state from AZ/NV). Claims of "not a Black face to be found" are simply false on the evidence.

This isn't the gotcha you think:

• Mixed demographics don't rehabilitate the event — Looting stores, throwing fireworks at police/horses/crowds, starting fires, and turning a holiday celebration into disorder is still indefensible, regardless of exact racial breakdown. "Teens being teens" or "out-of-state kids" doesn't excuse it.
• The deflection game: You got caught with old 2016 promo pics contrasted against current reality. Now shifting to hyper-focused racial purity tests ignores the thread's point: this scale of mayhem unfolded in Democrat-run Newport Beach, California. Governance, policing, and cultural signals about accountability matter more than litigating every face in the crowd.
• Consistency check: If the crowd had skewed heavily one way, the narrative would flip to "root causes." Here, the absence of the "usual script" seems to disappoint, so selective blindness ensues.

Address the real failure—why authorities couldn't (or wouldn't) prevent a viral takeover from descending into looting and violence— instead of desperate demographic cope. The OP stands: chaos in blue California on the Fourth. Facts over narrative.

 

[Walt]

Walt, your post is irrelevant to the thread and misses the point entirely.

So it does not matter they were white Republicans, because your point is that Black democrats only riot?

Reality does not matter to you.

The thread is about chaos in Newport Beach, California—a city run by Democrats in a Democrat-dominated state

Again, completely wrong. It was attacked, because Republicans falsely believed it is a Democrat run city, but it is a Republican run city. It has voted majority Republican in every election since 1964. It has voted majority for trump three times in a row.

Newport Beach, California - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Your response pivots to claiming the arrested were mostly "white Republicans"

Not mostly, but ALL!!! ALL the arrests were white Republicans. Not a single Black was arrested.

White Republicans attacked this community, and you are blaming the victims.

Demographics don't erase accountability

So again, you are claiming Blacks are to blame, even though no Blacks committed the crimes?

It ignores the actual reported behavior: looting, fights, fireworks attacks on police/crowds, fires—not some organized [COLOR=revert-layer] political[/COLOR] protest.

They got into cars throughout the Southwest, and drove hundreds of miles to the same location. That shows organization. This was not some random riot; it was an organized attack on this community.

Classic whataboutism: The thread highlights problems in a blue area. Responding with "but these bad actors were from red areas" doesn't defend California's governance or explain the repeated pattern of summer chaos in Democrat-run cities. It just changes the subject.

Once again, a Red city in a Red county, that was attacked by an Red organized group. Their main problem seems to be the terrorists attacking them, not the few Blacks who live there.

 

[Walt]

There are Black faces visible in the crowd footage and photos from the Newport Beach chaos.

I have seen some Black victims fleeing the rioters/terrorists. The rioters/terrorists were obviously targeting Blacks, so the Blacks ran for safety.

 

[Diogenes]

Walt, the "no Black faces" line was already addressed with actual footage showing mixed participation — including Black individuals — amid the mostly young/teen mob. But let's cut through the race fixation, since you're making it the entire point:


This isn't about claiming "only Black Democrats riot." That's a strawman. The thread (and OP from volsrocks) is about mayhem in California on the Fourth — stores looted, fireworks as weapons, fires, horse charges, 400+ arrests after a TikTok-fueled takeover. That chaos happened in Newport Beach under the state's long-term Democratic governance, policies, and enforcement posture — even if the city council leans Republican locally.


Out-of-state kids (heavy Arizona contingent) behaving like feral idiots doesn't magically make California's repeated crowd control and youth crime failures disappear. Visitors don't create anarchy in a vacuum; weak deterrence and permissive signals enable it. Shifting to "but they were white Republicans from red suburbs on a retribution mission" (your earlier spin) is pure partisan fanfic with zero evidence. Demographics of this particular mob don't exonerate the location or the broader pattern in blue strongholds.


Reality matters: Address why this scale of disorder keeps erupting where it does, instead of demographic cope or whataboutism. The OP called it right — it plunged into hell. Fix the root issues, don't litigate faces in the crowd.

So it does not matter they were white Republicans, because your point is that Black democrats only riot?

Reality does not matter to you.


Again, completely wrong. It was attacked, because Republicans falsely believed it is a Democrat run city, but it is a Republican run city. It has voted majority Republican in every election since 1964. It has voted majority for trump three times in a row.

Newport Beach, California - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Not mostly, but ALL!!! ALL the arrests were white Republicans. Not a single Black was arrested.

White Republicans attacked this community, and you are blaming the victims.


So again, you are claiming Blacks are to blame, even though no Blacks committed the crimes?


They got into cars throughout the Southwest, and drove hundreds of miles to the same location. That shows organization. This was not some random riot; it was an organized attack on this community.


Once again, a Red city in a Red county, that was attacked by an Red organized group. Their main problem seems to be the terrorists attacking them, not the few Blacks who live there.

Walt, you're spiraling into pure fiction now.

No credible report backs your claim that "ALL the arrests were white Republicans" or that this was an "organized attack" by a Republican political mob driving hundreds of miles to target a "Red city." Police data and coverage show ~402 arrests/citations: mostly juveniles and young adults (15-25 range), heavy from Arizona (~145), some Nevada/elsewhere, and many California. It was a TikTok-driven "teen takeover" that overwhelmed the area — looting (Pavilions), fireworks thrown at police/crowds/horses, fights, fires, blocked streets. Not a partisan op.


Newport Beach is indeed Republican-leaning locally (city council, voting history), but it's in California — a deep-blue state with years of progressive policies on youth crime, enforcement, and public order. Local R control doesn't override Sacramento's influence or explain why authorities struggled with a predictable viral event.


This isn't "blaming Black people" (another strawman — I explicitly noted mixed participation and said race doesn't excuse the behavior). Nor is it victim-blaming the community. It's holding accountable the environment that lets mobs turn a holiday into chaos, plus calling out terrible parenting for kids sent across state lines to act feral. "Organized" via social media hype ≠ political conspiracy.


Your pivot keeps dodging the OP: breakdown in California on the Fourth. Demographics and out-of-state origins don't erase governance questions or the repeated summer disorder patterns. Stick to facts, not fanfic about Republican terrorists. The looting and violence happened — that's the point.

 

[Diogenes]

I have seen some Black victims fleeing the rioters/terrorists. The rioters/terrorists were obviously targeting Blacks, so the Blacks ran for safety.

Walt, now it's "white Republican terrorists" specifically targeting Black victims? That's not in any reporting — it's pure invention layered on invention.


Mainstream coverage (NY Post, ABC7, OC Register, police statements) describes a chaotic TikTok-fueled mob of mostly young people/juveniles from out of state (heavy Arizona) overwhelming Newport Beach: looting stores, throwing fireworks at police/horses/crowds, fights, fires, unlawful assembly. No mentions of racial targeting of Blacks by "terrorists." Some Black individuals appear in crowd/chaos footage — some as participants, some fleeing disorder like anyone else would. General panic in a mob scene isn't evidence of a targeted racial hunt.


This keeps getting further from reality:

• No arrest data or logs support "all white Republicans."
• No evidence of organized partisan "attack" on the city.
• The core issue remains: large-scale disorder in California on the Fourth, enabled by viral hype + failures in prevention/crowd control.

You're turning a bad youth mob incident into conspiracy fanfic to avoid the thread's point about accountability in blue-state governance and culture. "Terrorists targeting Blacks" is not supported. Address the actual looting, violence, and parenting/social media failures instead of escalating narrative cope.


Facts over fiction. The mayhem happened regardless of the exact mix of faces in the crowd.

 

[Jade Dragon]

So it does not matter they were white Republicans, because your point is that Black democrats only riot?

Reality does not matter to you.


Again, completely wrong. It was attacked, because Republicans falsely believed it is a Democrat run city, but it is a Republican run city. It has voted majority Republican in every election since 1964. It has voted majority for trump three times in a row.

Newport Beach, California - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Not mostly, but ALL!!! ALL the arrests were white Republicans. Not a single Black was arrested.

White Republicans attacked this community, and you are blaming the victims.


So again, you are claiming Blacks are to blame, even though no Blacks committed the crimes?


They got into cars throughout the Southwest, and drove hundreds of miles to the same location. That shows organization. This was not some random riot; it was an organized attack on this community.


Once again, a Red city in a Red county, that was attacked by an Red organized group. Their main problem seems to be the terrorists attacking them, not the few Blacks who live there.

Don't waste your time with Legion. He shifts gears on a dime and will argue to argue. He is a flaming example of a troll and a dweeb.

 

[Diogenes]

Don't waste your time with Legion. He shifts gears on a dime and will argue to argue. He is a flaming example of a troll and a dweeb.

Irony abounds.

 

[Walt]

You're overreaching hard trying to "prove" zero Black teens were involved.

OK, so you want me to believe that when a bunch of terrorists started screaming "Kill the niggers", Blacks joined them? There were some Jewish Nazis, that would be possible, but Blacks are easily identifiable by the racists. They cannot join in with the racists.

There were several thousand white racists who showed up to attack a town with less than 1% of the population is Black. They did not have the numbers to fight back, so they ran. Police were able to evacuate and save them.

Democrat-run Newport Beach, California.

All 7 of the city council members are REPUBLICANS!!! There is not a single Democrat in Newport Beach's government. This is not even close.

Newport Beach City Council - Wikipedia

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[Walt]

Irony abounds.

First you try to blame the Blacks, and the riots turn out to be whites. Then you try to blame California, and the rioters turn out to be from out of state.

But finally you try to blame Democratic run Newport Beach... And we all have the real laugh that it is 100% Republican controlled.

Maybe you will find some Black Democrat who watched it on TV to blame.

 

[Diogenes]

OK, so you want me to believe that when a bunch of terrorists started screaming "Kill the niggers", Blacks joined them? There were some Jewish Nazis, that would be possible, but Blacks are easily identifiable by the racists. They cannot join in with the racists.

There were several thousand white racists who showed up to attack a town with less than 1% of the population is Black. They did not have the numbers to fight back, so they ran. Police were able to evacuate and save them.

Walt, this has gone from ridiculous to deranged.


No police reports, news coverage, videos, witness statements, or arrest data mention anyone screaming racial slurs, a coordinated racist attack by "thousands of white racists," or police evacuating black residents. That's 100% fabricated nonsense.


Reality (per PD and multiple outlets): TikTok-fueled mob of mostly young people/teens from out of state (145 Arizona) caused chaos — looting, illegal fireworks used as weapons, fights, fires, unlawful assembly. ~402 arrests/citations, mostly juveniles/young adults. Mixed crowd in the videos. No racial pogrom, no mass evacuation of black people, no partisan terrorist op.


You're inventing a race war fantasy to avoid the actual story: breakdown in public order during a California holiday event. Newport Beach locals (of all backgrounds) and authorities dealt with out-of-control visitors. Full stop.


Your troll act isn't fooling anyone.

All 7 of the city council members are REPUBLICANS!!! There is not a single Democrat in Newport Beach's government. This is not even close.

Walt, no one disputed that Newport Beach's city council is all Republican (it is — officially nonpartisan but 7/7 R, and the city votes Republican consistently).


That doesn't change the bigger picture: the chaos happened in California, a state under long-term one-party Democratic control that sets the overarching laws, criminal justice policies, youth offender rules, and enforcement priorities. Local R leadership still operates inside that environment, and the viral TikTok mob exploited it.


Out-of-state kids (mostly AZ) turning a holiday into looting/fireworks violence doesn't become a "Red city victory" story. The breakdown in crowd control and public order is still the point of the thread.


Stop moving the goalposts. The OP was right about the mayhem in California on the Fourth.

 

[Diogenes]

First you try to blame the Blacks, and the riots turn out to be whites. Then you try to blame California, and the rioters turn out to be from out of state. But finally you try to blame Democratic run Newport Beach... And we all have the real laugh that it is 100% Republican controlled. Maybe you will find some Black Democrat who watched it on TV to blame.

Walt, your summary is as dishonest as your other claims.

• Never blamed "the Blacks." Pointed out the mob was mixed and behavior is indefensible regardless of race. You invented the targeting fantasy.
• Never said only locals rioted. Highlighted out-of-state (esp. AZ) + the environment that failed to contain it.
• Never called Newport Beach "Democratic run." Acknowledged its R city council. The event still happened in California — blue state with progressive policies on crime/enforcement that shape what local governments can effectively do.

The core issue stands: viral youth mob caused real chaos (looting, fireworks attacks, fires, 400+ arrests) in a California city on the Fourth. Out-of-state origins and local R council don't erase questions about preparedness, deterrence, and state-level policy failures.


Your "gotchas" are strawmen. The OP described the mayhem accurately. Maybe stop inventing villains and address why this keeps happening.

 

[Walt]

Democrat-run Newport Beach

Walt, no one disputed that Newport Beach's city council is all Republican (it is — officially nonpartisan but 7/7 R, and the city votes Republican consistently).

First it is "Democrat-run" and now you admit that it is 100% Republican run?

That doesn't change the bigger picture: the chaos happened in California

The only part of California that had any major problems was Republican run Newport Beach. I guess if you are going to blame all of California for out-of-state terrorists attacking Newport Beach, you could also blame trump for it. After all they were just getting the "retribution" trump called for.

Out-of-state kids (mostly AZ) turning a holiday into looting/fireworks violence

They were on "holiday"... Isn't it amazing how they all organized their "holiday" together with intents of violence?

You're inventing a race war fantasy to avoid the actual story: breakdown in public order during a California holiday event.

Now the Fourth of July is only a "California holiday"?

 

[Walt]

Never said only locals rioted.

Maybe some locals joined in, but I doubt many did. This was an outside attack on the community. The community has very few Blacks(less than 1%) and the outsiders attacking were definitely not Black, so there were barely any Blacks involved even as victims.

The Blacks involved as victims are mostly very wealthy, and happy with their lives, which is why the terrorists(or as you call them "holiday goers") attacked them.

 

[Walt]

Never called Newport Beach "Democratic run."

Hmm... Lets check. I might have gotten that wrong, so it is best to check and make sure.

Yup, you did call it a "Democrat run" city:

Democrat-run Newport Beach, California

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Some points here that the above vitriol and diatribes missed:

There was no gunfire, no reported stabbings, or brutal, violent, beatings
Newport Beach is in Orange County a solid red, Republican stronghold part of S. Cali.
Injuries were minimal and there were no deaths
There were quite a few Blacks present as can be seen on videos.

 

[Diogenes]

First it is "Democrat-run" and now you admit that it is 100% Republican run?

Walt, fair point on the wording — I should have said "in Democrat-run California" instead of lumping the city itself in.

The only part of California that had any major problems was Republican run Newport Beach.

Newport Beach had the most publicized incident (the big TikTok "teen takeover" with ~400 arrests, looting, fireworks violence, etc.), but it was not the only place in California with July 4 problems. Reports from multiple areas:

• Statewide context: California saw elevated fireworks-related injuries, illegal fireworks seizures, and crowd issues in several spots. Newport Beach stood out due to the scale and social media virality, but it wasn't isolated.
• Other Orange County / SoCal areas had disturbances, and there were reports of fireworks chaos, fires, and arrests in places like LA County, San Diego, and elsewhere.

I guess if you are going to blame all of California for out-of-state terrorists attacking Newport Beach, you could also blame trump for it. After all they were just getting the "retribution" trump called for.

If you have any evidence the mob was carrying out "Trump retribution," post it.

Of course, I'll understand if you can't.

They were on "holiday"... Isn't it amazing how they all organized their "holiday" together with intents of violence?

Social media coordination via TikTok for a big party/“takeover” is exactly what happened — that’s not some grand conspiracy, it’s how these youth mobs form now (same as past beach parties or flash mobs that spiral).

Police and news reports describe a viral event drawing thousands of juveniles/young adults (heavy from Arizona) that overwhelmed the area, leading to looting, fireworks used as weapons, fights, fires, and 400+ arrests. Bad behavior + poor planning/preparedness = chaos. If you have evidence of organized “intent of violence” as a political or terrorist plot. let's see it.

Now the Fourth of July is only a "California holiday"?

Did anyone say that it is?

 

[Diogenes]

Hmm... Lets check. I might have gotten that wrong, so it is best to check and make sure. Yup, you did call it a "Democrat run" city:

Yes, I did. I was mistaken.

 

[Lionfish]

Of the 402 arrested, half were from Arizona white Republican suburbs, and a quarter were from Nevada white Republican suburbs. Early reports put the numbers at slightly under half and a quarter, but as more of the arrested are identified, the number will go over half and a quarter. One came as far as from the Texas white Republican suburbs. The few from California were from far away California white Republican suburbs.

Newport Beach is one of the most desirable places to live on Earth. The people there are literally living the dream, and are not rioting. The only problem with it is that because it is in such demand, it is very expensive to live there. But that also means if they chose not to live there, they can use their wealth to easily live in where ever @Stone lives.

These were right wing incels who organized online to attack those that had more than them. These rioters had been given a lot, but at the first sign of needing to do things on their own started failing. I would feel sorry for them, but they really do it to themselves.

Newport Beach teen takeover: Hundreds arrested, nearly half from Arizona

Newport Beach Police said thousands of young people took part in what’s been called a “teen takeover,” creating dangerous and unlawful conditions over July Fourth weekend.

www.azfamily.com

Somewhere along the line, you forgot what "round up the usual suspects" means. It is a reference to arresting random people to frame for a crime. In this case it would be the right wing demands that Blacks who fled the white rioters should be arrested too... Even though they committed no crime.


They are the white young men from Republican suburbs who could not get into college because they are stupid and lazy. They cannot get a date, because they are hateful. trump promised them "retribution" so they decided to take it out on the people of Newport Beach.

There is an additional issue hurting them. As trump's demands that private schools end diversity scholarships, more intelligent minorities are flooding into state schools, shoving less intelligent whites, like these losers, out.


Not a Black face to be found in the riots. Amazing how that works.

No wally I didn't forget. You alt lefties in the democrat party deny a lot.