Everyone understands that Socialism is not Communism, right?

T. A. Gardner said:
I suggest you ask one of your imaginary friends.


Communism is more virulent. In Socialism the government taxes you and says "Pay or else." In Communism, the government takes what you have at the end of the barrel of a gun and says, "We will give you some stuff soon..."


In Fascism, the government taxes you heavily and if you don't pay, you disappear. The government tells others, "Don't ask questions because you might get the same answer..."
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In our current Corporate Democracy the government taxes you and says "Pay or else."
 
QP! said:
In our current Corporate Democracy the government taxes you and says "Pay or else."
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No, in our current system the government taxes you and if you're honest, or mostly so, you pay them. If on the other hand, you are a scamming, minority committing major fraud, here illegally, or rich and politically connected, you blow off paying them and if questions do come up you flee the country.
 
Noking said:
You're the one who brought-up your sexual fantasies, and not me bringing up mine; I just tried to direct you in the right direction so that you can resolve you your issues.
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No, I pointed out for the thousandth time what frauds libs are when it comes to LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ issues. People who actually care about something don't use it as a tool to make fun of people.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
No, in our current system the government taxes you and if you're honest, or mostly so, you pay them. If on the other hand, you are a scamming, minority committing major fraud, here illegally, or rich and politically connected, you blow off paying them and if questions do come up you flee the country.
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No? You can opt out of paying taxes in the current Corporate Democracy we have? You do not have to pay? Is that really your position, Terry?

Saying "as long as you pay them honestly" is still being FORCED to pay Terry. If you honestly pay all your taxes in a Socialist system you also have no issues with the government.

Your attempts to spin and lie to try and create differences are failing badly Terry. So spin your next lie. i am ready.
 
countryboy said:
No, I pointed out for the thousandth time what frauds libs are when it comes to LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ issues. People who actually care about something don't use it as a tool to make fun of people.
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I don't consider Poopeye as a person.
 
QP! said:
No? You can opt out of paying taxes in the current Corporate Democracy we have? You do not have to pay? Is that really your position, Terry?
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That was the Biden family position, as one example. The honest pay. Politicians and the dishonest game the system forever.
QP! said:
Saying "as long as you pay them honestly" is still being FORCED to pay Terry. If you honestly pay all your taxes in a Socialist system you also have no issues with the government.
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The higher the taxes, the more incentive you have to game the system.
 
QP! said:
^^ This is projection on your part. (Slippery slope fallacy).
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No, I'm not, and your non-answer doesn't change that.
QP! said:
You are making the argument above for how Capitalism works. Everyone gets robbed (aka taxed), and a few benefit be it kings and oligarchs or the stupid and lazy.
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In pure Capitalism there is no taxation. Everyone makes their own deals between buyer and seller.
 
countryboy said:
Corporate democracy? What do you think happens under communist
QP! said:
No? You can opt out of paying taxes in the current Corporate Democracy we have? You do not have to pay? Is that really your position, Terry?

Saying "as long as you pay them honestly" is still being FORCED to pay Terry. If you honestly pay all your taxes in a Socialist system you also have no issues with the government.

Your attempts to spin and lie to try and create differences are failing badly Terry.
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countryboy said:
Corporate democracy? What do you think happens under communist regimes?
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He has no idea what the definition of Corporate Democracy is. Just throwing out shit because it sounds good. And using it in the completely wrong context.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
That was the Biden family position, as one example. The honest pay. Politicians and the dishonest game the system forever.


The higher the taxes, the more incentive you have to game the system.
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Are you taking back your 'no' and no longer claiming that you can refuse to pay taxes in the current US democracy? Or do you maintain taxes are optional?
 
countryboy said:
Corporate democracy? What do you think happens under communist regimes?
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Yes the US system has been a corporate focused democracy for decades now as opposed to a populist democracy (democratic socialist) one.

Don't really care about communism talk as that is not relevant for the US system.

The type of populist democracy Trump promised but did not delivery that is a slight spin on Bernie's democratic socialism is what is relevant here
 
T. A. Gardner said:
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In pure Capitalism there is no taxation. Everyone makes their own deals between buyer and seller.
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Are you pushing a fantasy structure that has never existed in any modern nation?

Do you recognize how terrible that society would be with no roads, hospitals, police, army, beyond what individual rich provided for themselves?
 
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