Archaeology of the New Testament

[Into the Night]

it describes it.

I'm not a Scientism freak like cypress.

and AI output is impossible to monitor fully.

you're defeated, ignorant fascist fuckhound.

Assumption of victory fallacy.
Cypress denies theories of science.

 

[Jerry Mathers]

So, you are blaming me for your hatred of tools?

 

[Jerry Mathers]

I'm still investigating and seeking.

you're an idiot.

 

[Cypress]

"Organized" and "lawful" is absolutely subjective,

So you do not believe the fundamental forces of the universe behave in a universally consistent, orderly, mathematical, and lawful way.

which is why multiple posters, me included, don't agree and can explain why.

The fact that nutjobs @Into the Night, @IBDaMann, and @Jerry Mathers agree with you hurts your case, not helps it.

You know who agrees with me? Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawking.

There are two options: a) all of the laws and equations were woven into the fabric of the universe or b) man created the laws and the equations after the fact, which would mean there's was nothing inherent in the design.

The unified four fundamental laws of physics existed from the very moment of creation, at least earlier than a thousandth of a nanosecond after the origin point.

They existed before matter, so you can't say they are just subjective human descriptions of matter.

You WANT to believe the universe was created with laws and equations to allow you to BELIEVE it was created by a god-like being.

It's not a matter of believing. It's a matter of science. As far as our best science tells us, the four fundamental forces of nature existed at the very beginning of the universe, even before matter like quarks and electrons did.

I see you moved away from "scientists" after you claimed science had no part in the discussion.

Mean nothing. Theirs is just an opinion as well.

Sure we would. We can create equations to explain most anything. See bucket of tennis balls example.

Tennis balls are following universal laws of mechanics and laws of conservation. These are universal properties of the comos. They are not subjective rules invented just for tennis balls.

It's all in the same ballpark.

If you're willing to ignore the multiple, specific examples, sure?

Whatever you want to call it, science, as it has with other things man was confused about, is working to answer the question of how the universe started. It may never be able to, but that doesn't mean you have to make up fairytale creatures.

Science is the study of process. It describes. It does not ultimately explain. We have spent 500 years devising elaborate ways of making accurate predictions for what gravity does and how it behaves. But after 500 years, we still have no explanation for the origin of gravity, why matter distorts space time, nor why gravity manifests as a universally consistent mathematical relationship.

 

[Jerry Mathers]

Science is the study of process. It describes. It does not ultimately explain. We have spent 500 years devising elaborate ways of making accurate predictions what gravity does and how it behaves. But after 500 years, we still have no explanation for the origin of gravity, why matter distorts space time, nor why gravity manifests as a universally consistent mathematical relationship.

and it doesn't fucking matter.

 

[Cypress]

Science is the study of process. It describes. It does not ultimately explain. We have spent 500 years devising elaborate ways of making accurate predictions for what gravity does and how it behaves. But after 500 years, we still have no explanation for the origin of gravity, why matter distorts space time, nor why gravity manifests as a universally consistent mathematical relationship.

and it doesn't fucking matter!

It matters to people who care about science and the pursuit of knowledge.

 

[Jerry Mathers]

It matters to people who care about science and the pursuit of knowledge.

no.

it only matters to AI Scientism totalitarian masonic fucksticks.

 

[Into the Night]

reread. I'm not babysitting your dumb ass.

Reread. He's not talking about babysitting anyone's ass.

 

[Into the Night]

lets give you another chance.

Is AI over-leveraged?

can you admit that, captain of lies?

AI isn't leveraged.

 

[Jerry Mathers]

I don't know what leverage means.

That I fixed for you.

 

[Into the Night]

That's Maxwell's equations. I would have said Maxwell's equations if I wanted to write about that.​

The inverse square law I had in mind when writing that is Columbs law for charged electrostatic particles.

The Inverse Square Law is not Coulomb's Law.
Coulomb's law does stem from the Inverse square Law though.

That is one on the classic inverse square laws of physics.

Posting random equations doesn't mean anything, Cyborg.

You're contradicting yourself. If the universe is mapped out in precise mathematical relationships, then that defies your claim that the universe is unorganized, random, arbitrary.

The Universe is not mapped.
The Universe is not mathematics.
The Universe not a law.

The Universe is unorganized.

These lawful relationships already existed in the universe billions of years before homo sapiens appeared. It took the rational minds of humans to discover the mathematical harmony of the cosmos.
.

The Universe is not a law.
You don't know what happened billions of years ago.
Man created mathematics.
Man created the Inverse Square Law.
Man created Coulomb's Law.
The Universe is not a musical instrument.

The Universe is unorganized.

 

[Into the Night]

It's not an opinion.

All religions are your opinion.

The universe is mathematical and lawful. Not arbitrary and random. The most famous physicists in history note that order is the overall impression one gets when one studies it scientifically.

The Universe is not mathematics.
The Universe is arbitrary. It doesn't care about you.
The Universe is not sentient.
The Universe is a perfect randR generator.
You are denying random number mathematics again.
You don't get to quote everyone. Omniscience fallacy.
The Universe is not science.
The Universe is not a study or research.

The Universe is unorganized.

If your worldview were actually true (universe is unorganized, random, arbitrary) we wouldn't even be able to so science. Science is predicated on the assumption that the universe is rationally intelligible and lawful.

The Universe is not the Earth.
The Universe is not sentient.
You are denying random number mathematics again.
Science isn't a 'so'.
The only requirement of a theory of science is that it be falsifiable.
The Universe is not science.
The Universe is not a division.
The Universe is not a law.

The Universe is unorganized.

For about the tenth time, you keep indulging your anger at Christianity and keep coming back to it. What happened to traumatize you at the fundy church your parents dragged you to?

The Universe is not a religion.

I haven't mentioned Christianity in this cosmological context. Einstein's Pantheism, Universalism, or Taoism could just as well be the framework for my cosmological arguments.

Yes you have. DON'T TRY TO DENY YOUR OWN POSTS!
The Universe is not a religion.

The Universe is unorganized.

God of the gaps is a subjective term not rooted in anything real.

So you don't believe in his God. That's fine. He doesn't believe in your's either.

Science does not explain anything. Science describes.

Science explains.
Science is a set of falsifiable theories.
A theory is an explanatory argument.

Teleological explanations has not been a concern of science.

Science is not a buzzword.

Therefore, there aren't any gaps that are rapidly closing. We do increase our knowledge of process using the scientific method.

What 'gap'?
Science is not a process, procedure, or method.
The Universe is not science.
The Universe is not a 'gap'.
The Universe is not a religion.

The Universe is unorganized.

 

[Into the Night]

The point is ,someone is the engineer of the Physical universe!
Now the Question, is that Engineer YHWH? AKA Allah? AKA Jesus?
All of the Above,none of the Above ,any one of All of the Above!?

The Universe is not an engine.
The Universe is not a religion.

The Universe is unorganized.

Illiteracy: common nouns capitalized. Proper nouns have not been capitalized. Extra commas. Extra period.

 

[Jerry Mathers]

The point is ,someone is the engineer of the Physical universe!
Now the Question, is that Engineer YHWH? AKA Allah? AKA Jesus?
All of the Above,none of the Above ,any one of All of the Above!?

no, mason, no.

bad mason.

 

[Into the Night]

The preeminent 20th century theoretical physicist Paul Dirac famously said: "God is a mathematician of a very high order, and He used very advanced mathematics in constructing the universe".

Dirac was an atheist, but he was using God as a metaphor for how unexpected and incomprehensible the order and rational intelligibility of the universe is.

The Universe is not a construct.
Dirac was not an atheist.
The Universe is not mathematics.
The Universe has no order.
The Universe is not a division.
The Universe is not sentient.

The Universe is unorganized.

 

[Jerry Mathers]

The point is ,someone is the engineer of the Physical universe!
Now the Question, is that Engineer YHWH? AKA Allah? AKA Jesus?
All of the Above,none of the Above ,any one of All of the Above!?

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Nimrod is a biblical figure described as a "mighty hunter" and a king, while Cain is known as the first murderer and a farmer. Hephaestus, the Greek god of blacksmiths and fire, is often associated with Tubal-cain, a descendant of Cain and the first blacksmith mentioned in the Bible.
Wikipedia buttondown.com

this archetype is Satan.

 

[Into the Night]

I sent the post to Cypress,not Dirac! Kind of a Cop out deflecting to Dirac! What's so hard of admitting the Universe has an Engineer,and that Organized Religion has mind fucked you from seeing that Engineer in the big Equation in the Sky?

The Universe is not an engine.
The Universe is not a religion.
The Universe is not an equation.
The Universe is not the sky.

The Universe is unorganized.

 

[Into the Night]

I've already said about 26 times on this thread

Attempted proof by chant.

that a mathematically rational and fine-tuned universe logically requires a rational cause. I've thought that for most of my life.

The Universe is not mathematics.
The Universe is not an instrument.
The Universe is not logic.
The Universe is not a cause.
The Universe is not division.

The Universe is unorganized.

 

[Jerry Mathers]

hermes / mercury -- the demon of propaganda and globalism. sons of the morning star.

 

[Into the Night]

It matters to people who care about science and the pursuit of knowledge.

You deny science.
You are not learning.

All you want to do is mindlessly chant. You don't even know the meaning of the words you chant.