They said wearing masks is stupid

[Into the Night]

N95s are not dust masks, they are technically respirators.

Nope. They are dust masks. They are not respirators. There is no tank or pump.

And while they may not be effective against smoke, they are certainly effective against many smaller particulates such as silica and fiberglass.

Silica and fiberglass particulates are much larger than smoke particulates.
See the N95 specification.

But yeah, they were never effective against COVID, and Lord Fauci knew it. I still can't believe we're re-litigating this.

The Democrats are about lording power. Their only interest is to gain power.
They do not care about anyone but themselves. They consider themselves 'The Elite'.

While Covid19 does exist, it's the mildest variant of the Covid/SARS series so far discovered. Its infection cycle is long (about 2-3 weeks), and it has the unusual characteristic of reducing your sense of smell considerably, but it doesn't kill.

Like all Covid variant, it CAN cause pneumonia, which should be treated aggressively and early if it appears.

The Democrats used it to create the 'Covid Hoax', a major panic to intentionally cause an economic depression, in an effort to ruin Trump's successes. It was also used a method to commit election fraud on a massive scale, resulting in the 2020 election cycle to fault. No President was elected, a first in U.S. history (and hopefully the last!).

Instead, Joe Biden was installed as a puppet for a '3rd term' of Obama, resulting in that economic depression lasting 6 years and destroying many businesses.

Fauci, of course, was perfectly fine with going along with it.

The induced panic in the United States of course went worldwide, since a lot of nations tend to follow the silliness of the United States. Canada is no exception to this.

Covid has not become a fundamentalist style religion, based on two paradoxes: Paradox V and Paradox M. It is but one of many religions by Democrats, which include the Church of the Ozone Hole, the Church of Green, the Church of the EV, the Church of Global Warming, the Church of Hate, etc.

 

[Crepitus]

You can't blame your problem on anybody else, Sybil.

Mantra 1a. Lame.

Bored. Say something else, Larry.

 

[countryboy]

Nope. They are dust masks. They are not respirators. There is no tank or pump.

You're trying too hard to be a contrarian. N95 masks are respirators, all you have to do is read the label, let alone the specs.

Silica and fiberglass particulates are much larger than smoke particulates.
See the N95 specification.

Wrong again Mr Contrarian.

Smoke particles are generally smaller than silica and fiberglass particles. Smoke particles can be as small as 0.01 to 0.1 microns, while silica and fiberglass particles can range from 1 to 1000 microns.

As for the rest of your post, get back to me when you are more willing to be more honest, or at least knowledgeable. Faking knowledge isn't a good look, especially when it can be so easily refuted.

Technical Specifications
3M™ Particulate Respirator
8210, N95

 

[Into the Night]

Bored. Say something else, Larry.

I am not you.

 

[Into the Night]

You're trying too hard to be a contrarian. N95 masks are respirators, all you have to do is read the label, let alone the specs.

Nope. They are masks. There is no pump or tank.

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Wrong again Mr Contrarian.

Marketing does not make it a respirator. It is a dust mask.

Smoke particles are generally smaller than silica and fiberglass particles. Smoke particles can be as small as 0.01 to 0.1 microns, while silica and fiberglass particles can range from 1 to 1000 microns.

So you agree with me here.

As for the rest of your post, get back to me when you are more willing to be more honest, or at least knowledgeable. Faking knowledge isn't a good look, especially when it can be so easily refuted.

You haven't refuted anything.

Technical Specifications
3M™ Particulate Respirator
8210, N95

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You still haven't refuted anything.

It's a dust mask, even if 3M markets one and calls it a 'respirator'.

 

[Walt]

A smallpox vaccine intentionally gives you smallpox, Wally. That is how vaccines work.

Some vaccines give you weaker versions of the disease, but others have particles from the disease, so do not give you the disease. Smallpox is somewhere in between, where it gives you another disease, that cross protects you from Smallpox. The Smallpox vaccine contains a virus called vaccinia, which cannot give you Smallpox.

If the Smallpox vaccine gave you Smallpox, then it could spread from the people who are currently getting the vaccine.

It is not wiped out, Wally. Smallpox is stored in a few labs.

Correct, it is no longer in the wild infecting people.

 

[Into the Night]

Some vaccines give you weaker versions of the disease,

This part is correct. These weakened forms helps to teach your body how to make antibodies against it.

but others have particles from the disease, so do not give you the disease.

They all give you the disease, Wally.

Smallpox is somewhere in between, where it gives you another disease, that cross protects you from Smallpox. The Smallpox vaccine contains a virus called vaccinia, which cannot give you Smallpox.

Nope. It was smallpox, but with it's replicating ability removed.

If the Smallpox vaccine gave you Smallpox, then it could spread from the people who are currently getting the vaccine.

Nope. No rash. Smallpox is only contagious after the rash appears.

Correct, it is no longer in the wild infecting people.

Unknown. There are no reported cases, but that does not mean it hasn't infected people.

 

[Crepitus]

I am not you.

sigh, still bored.

 

[countryboy]

Nope. They are masks. There is no pump or tank.

Marketing does not make it a respirator. It is a dust mask.

So you agree with me here.

You haven't refuted anything.

You still haven't refuted anything.

It's a dust mask, even if 3M markets one and calls it a 'respirator'.

You said read the specs, so I posted the specs, now you move the goal posts. You're worse than a liberal dude, or ma'am, whatever you are. Nothing worse than a know-it-all who knows nothing. Good grief, I guess Lefty was right about you, go figure.

Oh and by the way, it isn't 3M "marketing it as a respirator", it's them complying with NIOSH specifications. 3M also makes dust masks, which have a completely different set of NIOSH requirements. Do you know anything about PPE, or are you just making it up as you go along. What do you do for a living?

 

[Damocles]

@Damocles, why do you allow this trash to pollute your site?

I'll bet he also is allowed on Facebook and X... Why you not asking them why he's still there?

 

[Into the Night]

sigh, still bored.

Go find something useful to do.

 

[Into the Night]

You said read the specs, so I posted the specs, now you move the goal posts.

Fallacy fallacy. No goal posts were moved.
The spec does not call a dust mask a respirator.

You're worse than a liberal dude, or ma'am, whatever you are. Nothing worse than a know-it-all who knows nothing. Good grief, I guess Lefty was right about you, go figure.

I'm a guy.
I'm a conservative.
You agreed with me, now you deny it.

Oh and by the way, it isn't 3M "marketing it as a respirator",

Yes it is.
There is a difference between a mask and a respirator. Respirators have pumps or a compressed tank and pressure regulators.
Respirators are used in some paint booths due to toxic fumes. The guy has a mask with a pump attached, giving him fresh air to breath while he paints.

These days, of course, it is usually done by robots, which need no oxygen to function.

it's them complying with NIOSH specifications. 3M also makes dust masks, which have a completely different set of NIOSH requirements. Do you know anything about PPE, or are you just making it up as you go along. What do you do for a living?

An N95 mask is a dust mask. The N95 specification shows the particulate size the mask will pass.
You happen to have agreed with me on this point, and now you try to deny it.

Now if you want to play word games, that is up to you. I don't condone it.

I do many things for a 'living'. I am a chemist, a scientist, a pyrotechnician, a rancher, a computer designer, a software engineer, a buildmeister, an electronics technician, an aircraft designer, builder, pilot, and mechanic, and even a housebuilder (yes...I do my own work).

This was about using these masks to stop a virus. and they can't. You want to get into needless word games.

I don't see why you want to fixate on irrelevancy.

 

[Crepitus]

Go find something useful to do.

YOu are supposed to entertain me.

Dance, monkey.

 

[AProudLefty]

I'll bet he also is allowed on Facebook and X... Why you not asking them why he's still there?

I don't know their rules but this is your rule:

14. The treatment of Incendiary Troll accounts. Definition: Posting solely for reaction, to harass, or stalk. Whether single or secondary, those accounts posting solely for reaction and/or harassment and not contributing to the discussion in any way post at the sole discretion of the JPP Admin Team and may be removed at any moment.

 

[QP!]

I'll bet he also is allowed on Facebook and X... Why you not asking them why he's still there?

most forums enforce some version of a 'trolling' or 'empty posting' rule.

That is not to be anti-free speech and is because they recognize complete spam posting, not meant for real engagement actually harms the evolution of real discourse that a site requires to grow.

I was on Rotten Tomatoes in the earliest days when that Movie sites 'Off Topic' forums started to gain traction before there were many main stream such forums.

It got flooded early by Conspiracy Theorists who had tried to develop their own forums but realized just having an echo box for like minded arguments with no one disputing them got boring fast and membership did not grow.

So instead they would spam any and all off topic thread with any tenous link they could use to post the same template CT spam. Any attempt to engage or refute just got caught in the same doom loop with them just going back to the top of their post list, no matter how debunked it was.

Spammers and empty posters like that figured out they could WIN when they are engaged and hitting 'reply' as opposed to just spamming, which most sites had rules against and they is why forums later developed the 'empty posting' rule which recognized just rote reposting of talking points with no real attempt to truly engage beyond just repeating the same points.

This forum is far worse than it otherwise it could be (real left/right true debate) due to spam bot type trolls being able to over whelm threads. Sure you can ignore them (and i do) but you lose a ton of people who will not comment who do not ignore them and do not want to deal with a spam bot over and over.

 

[Damocles]

most forums enforce some version of a 'trolling' or 'empty posting' rule.

That is not to be anti-free speech and is because they recognize complete spam posting, not meant for real engagement actually harms the evolution of real discourse that a site requires to grow.

I was on Rotten Tomatoes in the earliest days when that Movie sites 'Off Topic' forums started to gain traction before there were many main stream such forums.

It got flooded early by Conspiracy Theorists who had tried to develop their own forums but realized just having an echo box for like minded arguments with no one disputing them got boring fast and membership did not grow.

So instead they would spam any and all off topic thread with any tenous link they could use to post the same template CT spam. Any attempt to engage or refute just got caught in the same doom loop with them just going back to the top of their post list, no matter how debunked it was.

Spammers and empty posters like that figured out they could WIN when they are engaged and hitting 'reply' as opposed to just spamming, which most sites had rules against and they is why forums later developed the 'empty posting' rule which recognized just rote reposting of talking points with no real attempt to truly engage beyond just repeating the same points.

This forum is far worse than it otherwise it could be (real left/right true debate) due to spam bot type trolls being able to over whelm threads. Sure you can ignore them (and i do) but you lose a ton of people who will not comment who do not ignore them and do not want to deal with a spam bot over and over.

Most forums do, this one does too. The problem you have is that is not the only thing he posts, therefore you will just have to deal with him. I get that you do not like his opinion, but that is not the same thing as trolling.

 

[AProudLefty]

Most forums do, this one does too. The problem you have is that is not the only thing he posts, therefore you will just have to deal with him. I get that you do not like his opinion, but that is not the same thing as trolling.

What opinion? Spamming things like "Don't deny your own posts!" is not conductive.

 

[Damocles]

What opinion? Spamming things like "Don't deny your own posts!" is not conductive.

And is not the only thing he posts. It is likely the only thing he posts to you... but you not liking him does not break the rule. He can even be a jerk and still post here, there are several.

 

[AProudLefty]

Platform Manipulation and Spam: You may not use X’s services in a manner intended to artificially amplify or suppress information or engage in behavior that manipulates or disrupts people’s experience on X.

 

[QP!]

Most forums do, this one does too. The problem you have is that is not the only thing he posts, therefore you will just have to deal with him. I get that you do not like his opinion, but that is not the same thing as trolling.

I don't know specifically who is being discussed as the person is on my ignore.

I am speaking more generally to the bot holes like Into the Night, etc, who just spam talking points with no real intent to engage in any debate beyond that.

That is trolling. That is empty posting. And that hurts this forum generating real left/right debate as many people are turned off and stop engaging entirely when a spam bot is replying to their posts.

If i had to diagnose why this site is stuck with the same X number of active posters, the spam bots are probably the biggest reason why.