Why because he made an ass of Trump
Lying Weasel Fauci's Infatuation with Fame, While People were Dying
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What the hell are you talking about?
You claimed that the pardon was needed because of the questioning today.
In reality the scumbag used the 5th amendment.
Do you ever THINK before you post?
Jaysus, so explain to us, opps, my mistake, ask Musk, how exactly did we witness all those horrific numbers of fatalities resulting from Covid in the first years of it’s arrival?How does a society attain a 98% recovery rate from a novel virus that has no natural immunity?
A society attains a high recovery rate (e.g., ~98%) from a novel virus primarily because most infections are not inherently lethal for the majority of hosts, combined with basic supportive care, age/health stratification of risk, and the rapid development of adaptive immunity in survivors. There is no requirement for prior natural (pre-existing) immunity or extraordinary interventions for this outcome to occur.
Core Biological Reality
- Innate + adaptive response still works without prior exposure. A completely novel pathogen triggers innate defenses (interferons, inflammation, phagocytes, etc.) immediately. Adaptive immunity (antibodies, T-cells) takes days to weeks to ramp up on first encounter, but for the large majority of people and for most respiratory viruses this is sufficient to clear the infection. Prior “natural immunity” accelerates and strengthens the response; its absence mainly increases the chance of a more symptomatic first infection, not automatic high lethality.
- Virulence is a property of the virus–host interaction, not a binary. Many novel viruses (or novel strains) produce mostly mild or moderate disease in healthy people. High recovery rates are the default outcome when the pathogen does not systematically destroy vital organs or trigger uncontrollable cytokine storms in most hosts. Extremely high case-fatality rates (Ebola-range, untreated historical smallpox in naïve populations, etc.) are the exception, not the rule.
- Infection fatality rate (IFR) is heavily age- and comorbidity-dependent. Even with zero prior immunity, IFR is typically orders of magnitude lower in children and healthy working-age adults than in the frail elderly or those with severe underlying conditions. A population-level recovery rate near 98% is therefore statistically expected if the virus behaves like many observed respiratory pathogens and the age structure is not extremely skewed toward the highest-risk groups.
What Actually Moves the Needle
- Supportive medical care (oxygen, fluids, secondary-infection management, anticoagulation where indicated, etc.) reduces deaths among the minority who progress to severe disease. This does not require sterilizing immunity or a specific antiviral.
- Isolation or shielding of the highest-risk groups lowers the observed population fatality rate without changing individual recovery biology.
- Once a substantial fraction of the population has recovered, population-level immunity rises and subsequent waves become less lethal on average (both because of immunity and because selection often favors less-virulent transmission).
High Recovery Rates Novel Viruses | Shared Grok Conversation
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Exactly, Fauci highlighting the absurdity of Paul’s theater, good for him
Hopefully he won't live much longer, Anchovies. It is my wish that he spend what's left of his life suffering fear and uncertainty.
Because of the circus today, exactly, if Fauci didn’t end it today Paul would have continued on using any means he could, you do know Fauci is the subject of his book
I cannot find Trump saying COVID was “no worse than the common cold.” He did compare it to the flu and sometimes downplayed its likely impact, but that particular quote appears inaccurate. cite it or admit you are misleading us once again
What he clearly said was that “we cannot let the cure (nationwide shutdowns) be worse than the problem itself.”
In regard to natural immunity, Anchovies demands that "Musk" explain "how exactly did we witness all those horrific numbers of fatalities resulting from Covid in the first years of it’s arrival".
Natural immunity develops after surviving infection with the specific pathogen; it does not protect a fully naïve population during the first waves of a novel virus.
SARS-CoV-2 was a new coronavirus for humans in late 2019/early 2020. Most of the global population had no prior adaptive immunity to it. Cross-reactive responses from common-cold coronaviruses existed in some people and may have modestly influenced outcomes in a minority, but they were nowhere near sterilizing or broadly protective against severe disease for the population as a whole. The early “horrific numbers” reflect a virus spreading through a largely susceptible population, with deaths heavily concentrated among the elderly and those with comorbidities (obesity, diabetes, heart/lung disease, immunosuppression, etc.).
Scale of early mortality
- Official reported COVID deaths reached into the millions worldwide by the end of 2021; excess-mortality analyses (which capture undercounting, indirect effects, and misattribution) put the 2020–2021 global toll substantially higher—commonly estimated in the 14–18 million range depending on the model.
- In the United States, excess deaths in the first pandemic year were on the order of ~650,000, with the large majority involving COVID-19 as an underlying or contributing cause. Rates were far higher in older age groups.
- Case-fatality and infection-fatality ratios were strongly age- and comorbidity-dependent. For healthy younger adults the risk of death was low; for people over 70–80 or with multiple risk factors it was dramatically higher. Early hospital systems were also overwhelmed in many places, raising mortality further.
Once large numbers of people had been infected (or later vaccinated), reinfection risk of severe disease and death dropped sharply. Multiple large observational studies and meta-analyses showed that prior infection conferred strong, durable protection against hospitalization and death—often comparable to or better than primary-series vaccination against earlier variants, and remaining high against severe outcomes even as protection against mild reinfection waned with Omicron.
Why the “natural immunity” framing does not erase the early deaths
- Surviving the first infection is the only way to acquire that post-infection immunity. The deaths are the people who did not survive the naïve encounter (or who died of complications).
- Immunity is not binary or uniform. Antibody and T-cell responses vary by severity of the initial illness, age, underlying health, and viral dose. Mild or asymptomatic infections sometimes produced weaker or shorter-lived responses.
- Variants, waning, and population mixing meant later waves still produced additional deaths, though the absolute risk per infection fell as more people had prior exposure or vaccine-induced immunity and as clinical care improved.
- Hybrid immunity (infection + vaccination) generally provided the broadest protection in studies that examined it.
Natural Immunity vs Early COVID Fatalities | Shared Grok Conversation
In regard to natural immunity, Anchovies demands that "Musk" explain "how exactly did we witness all
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Sadly because intubation caused a severe reaction with the virus, causing respiratory collapse and death. Medical professionals THOUGHT they were doing the right thing, but in fact this ended up killing the patient.
Nearly every in America became infected with the Fauci bug. There are 340 million people here, with just under 1 million deaths, So about a 99.67% survival rate.
Again, not very Christian of you wishing wrath upon another
I'm not Christian, Anchovies. I long for the day you are murdered by a criminal who wants something you have.
Fauci did not end it today
are you really this dense?
today was the start of a procedural fight: Was Fauci facing a genuine, unpardoned criminal risk, or did he use the Fifth to avoid answering questions for which Biden had already removed the federal jeopardy? Ultimately, a court—not Fauci, Paul, or Fauci’s lawyer—will resolve that.
My bad, that was Limbaugh, I often get my demagogues mixed up, but Trump imply several times that Covid was no worse than the common flue - “So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!” ( View: https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1237027356314869761?lang=en
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So you are concurring then that regardless of the horror scenes coming out of the first years of Covid, ER’s overcrowded, mass graves, etc., doing little to see if a natural immunity occurred would have been the wisest course of action?