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They sold out. Just my opinion.
Huh?
Could this be seen as "selling out"?
No, not really — or at least not in any meaningful sense of the term.
Elon’s post is simply announcing that Grok 4.5 is now available as a selectable model inside GitHub Copilot (the model picker in VS Code, Visual Studio, Copilot CLI, JetBrains, etc.). It’s distribution: putting a strong coding/reasoning model where millions of developers already work, so they can use it without leaving their IDE.
“Selling out” usually implies abandoning core principles, independence, or authenticity for money, status, or corporate approval. This doesn’t fit that:
- xAI still owns and controls the model. Users pick Grok 4.5 from the picker; it’s not being rebranded as a Microsoft product or diluted.
- GitHub Copilot already supports multiple models (including competitors). Adding Grok is product competition inside an existing platform, not a merger or surrender of control.
- The commercial arrangement appears to be standard usage-based billing at provider rates. That’s how most frontier models get distributed into tools.
- Getting the model in front of more developers is consistent with xAI’s stated goals (building useful AI and understanding the universe), not a contradiction of them.
People who dislike Microsoft, GitHub’s corporate parent, or big-tech platforms in general can call any partnership with them “selling out.” That’s a preference or tribal signal, not a serious analysis of principles. Elon has criticized Microsoft/OpenAI dynamics before; distribution deals don’t erase that. Companies routinely put their products on rival or neutral platforms when it expands reach (see every major AI model that ends up in VS Code, Cursor, or similar tools).
If the integration required watering down Grok’s behavior, adding heavy content filters that contradict xAI’s approach, or giving Microsoft control over the model weights/training, that would be closer to selling out. There’s no public indication of that here. It’s product placement for developers who already live in the GitHub/VS Code ecosystem.
Grok 4.5 in GitHub Copilot | Shared Grok Conversation
Could this be seen as "selling out"? https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2082360969150529649?s=20
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Let me explain. Grok is accurate and non biased. Just facts. Microsoft is not. As long as Grok stays the same it is a good thing. If it starts changing that is a reason.Huh?
Could this be seen as "selling out"?
No, not really — or at least not in any meaningful sense of the term.
Elon’s post is simply announcing that Grok 4.5 is now available as a selectable model inside GitHub Copilot (the model picker in VS Code, Visual Studio, Copilot CLI, JetBrains, etc.). It’s distribution: putting a strong coding/reasoning model where millions of developers already work, so they can use it without leaving their IDE.
“Selling out” usually implies abandoning core principles, independence, or authenticity for money, status, or corporate approval. This doesn’t fit that:
- xAI still owns and controls the model. Users pick Grok 4.5 from the picker; it’s not being rebranded as a Microsoft product or diluted.
- GitHub Copilot already supports multiple models (including competitors). Adding Grok is product competition inside an existing platform, not a merger or surrender of control.
- The commercial arrangement appears to be standard usage-based billing at provider rates. That’s how most frontier models get distributed into tools.
- Getting the model in front of more developers is consistent with xAI’s stated goals (building useful AI and understanding the universe), not a contradiction of them.
People who dislike Microsoft, GitHub’s corporate parent, or big-tech platforms in general can call any partnership with them “selling out.” That’s a preference or tribal signal, not a serious analysis of principles. Elon has criticized Microsoft/OpenAI dynamics before; distribution deals don’t erase that. Companies routinely put their products on rival or neutral platforms when it expands reach (see every major AI model that ends up in VS Code, Cursor, or similar tools).
If the integration required watering down Grok’s behavior, adding heavy content filters that contradict xAI’s approach, or giving Microsoft control over the model weights/training, that would be closer to selling out. There’s no public indication of that here. It’s product placement for developers who already live in the GitHub/VS Code ecosystem.
Grok 4.5 in GitHub Copilot | Shared Grok Conversation
Could this be seen as "selling out"? https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2082360969150529649?s=20
The left can't. Grok can. You have been warned.
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