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T. A. Gardner
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In situations like those, men are far smarter than women... generally.
IBDaMann
Probably the worse human in the threads
Having said that, she didn't get herself impaled.
T. A. Gardner
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Accidents happen. On the other hand, she did likely get a whopping five figure bill for her "rescue."
No.
This refers to a 2024 incident on Yosemite’s Mist Trail involving a group organized by Hobbit Hikers (led by Chelsea McCurdy). Grace experienced heat exhaustion/thyroid-related issues about two miles in, showed signs of blacking out, and was treated on-site with fluids/IVs before being extracted by helicopter hoist (Yosemite Search and Rescue / related resources). The original group video of the hike and rescue circulated; later edited/viral versions added the false claim of a massive bill.
McCurdy confirmed to Outside that no one in the group was charged anything. There was no bill, no ambulance/hospital charges of that nature, and Grace was lowered into a field in the park. The $70,000 figure came from a fake-news account that screen-recorded and overlaid false claims on the original footage. The National Park Service explicitly does not charge visitors for search-and-rescue operations inside national parks—these are covered by federal/NPS funds.
(Note: Private medical air ambulances or post-rescue hospital care can generate large bills elsewhere, and a few states like New Hampshire can sometimes seek recovery for negligent cases outside parks, but that does not apply here.)
Yosemite Rescue False $70k Bill Claim | Shared Grok Conversation
Did this woman "get a whopping 5 figure bill for her rescue"? https://x.com/pnwguerrilla/status/2082
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T. A. Gardner
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So, you and I paid for her stupidity. How generous...No.
This refers to a 2024 incident on Yosemite’s Mist Trail involving a group organized by Hobbit Hikers (led by Chelsea McCurdy). Grace experienced heat exhaustion/thyroid-related issues about two miles in, showed signs of blacking out, and was treated on-site with fluids/IVs before being extracted by helicopter hoist (Yosemite Search and Rescue / related resources). The original group video of the hike and rescue circulated; later edited/viral versions added the false claim of a massive bill.
McCurdy confirmed to Outside that no one in the group was charged anything. There was no bill, no ambulance/hospital charges of that nature, and Grace was lowered into a field in the park. The $70,000 figure came from a fake-news account that screen-recorded and overlaid false claims on the original footage. The National Park Service explicitly does not charge visitors for search-and-rescue operations inside national parks—these are covered by federal/NPS funds.
(Note: Private medical air ambulances or post-rescue hospital care can generate large bills elsewhere, and a few states like New Hampshire can sometimes seek recovery for negligent cases outside parks, but that does not apply here.)
Yosemite Rescue False $70k Bill Claim | Shared Grok Conversation
Did this woman "get a whopping 5 figure bill for her rescue"? https://x.com/pnwguerrilla/status/2082
Yep.
Taxpayers, via the National Park Service (federal government funds) paid.
NPS policy is clear: the agency does not charge visitors for search-and-rescue operations inside national parks. The federal government funds them. Specifically:
- Rescues under $500 come from the individual park’s operating budget.
- Larger ones (like a helicopter hoist) draw from a federally funded national search-and-rescue account under NPS policy.
In this case, Grace was treated on-trail and extracted by helicopter hoist within Yosemite, then lowered into a field in the park. Group organizer Chelsea McCurdy confirmed there was no bill to Grace, the group, any ambulance, hospital, or private insurance for the rescue itself.
(Volunteer groups like Friends of Yosemite Search and Rescue raise private donations for training, equipment, and support, but operational mission costs—including helicopter time—are covered by appropriated federal NPS funds.)
T. A. Gardner
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So, us taxpayers got stuck with what is likely a bill north of $50,000 for her stupidity.
Yep.
IBDaMann
Probably the worse human in the threads
There's never a bill for public services. This is why Arizona felt it had to pass the "Stupid Motorist" law.
T. A. Gardner
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Oh yes there is. One of my kid's ex's got in a really bad accident on I 17 about 10 years ago. For some reason the med evac helicopter bill for her airlift to a hospital came to my house. It was just shy of $28,000.
I also got billed once--it was later cancelled when I showed I paid property tax to the city of Phoenix--for an ambulance the wife used. But you don't pay property tax? Guess what? That bill is all yours.
IBDaMann
Probably the worse human in the threads
Are you talking about Arizona?
T. A. Gardner
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Yep. That's how this state rolls. That woman in Yosemite would have gotten the full bill here for being stupid. Happens pretty regularly. Some idiot goes on a two-mile hike in like 110 degree heat with no water, etc., and gets heat exhaustion. The rescue people come and the idiot gets the full bill.
The fire departments here even have a special stretcher rig for these cases:
They should pay the full bill for being stupid. It'd be different if they were well prepared and had some sort of accident or injury beyond their control, but being out of shape and not hauling enough water, etc., is purely on them.
IBDaMann
Probably the worse human in the threads
Yeah, that was kind of my point. Arizona felt it necessary to break from the madness of everywhere else.
The main aspect that caught my attention (reached out and grabbed me, actually) were the DO NOT ENTER WHEN FLOODED SIGNS so that the State would have leverage to stick someone with a bill, i.e. if someone drives into a flood and has to be rescued, responders take a picture of the sign the driver ignored.
evince
Truthmatters
By someone like you who pounds his pud in public like your intellectual hero often did?
Do you live in a clay jar and piss on people too?
T. A. Gardner
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My rule on such washes isYeah, that was kind of my point. Arizona felt it necessary to break from the madness of everywhere else.
The main aspect that caught my attention (reached out and grabbed me, actually) were the DO NOT ENTER WHEN FLOODED SIGNS so that the State would have leverage to stick someone with a bill, i.e. if someone drives into a flood and has to be rescued, responders take a picture of the sign the driver ignored.
1. Never drive into one if the water is wider than your vehicle is long.
2. Wait for some other fool to try driving through it first. Somebody will and you won't have to wait long.