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I do not think your numbers add up. Florida fared better than New York, for instance. You should get Cuomo to send all the old people into sick houses again... That worked well. We know that Fauci was lying about pretty much everything, he told us so in his diary he wrote on one of our publicly owned computers.
Remember when the CA Gov got caught breaking his own restrictions? Yeah... Good times. Hypocrites.
Math does not seem to be a republican strong suit.
LOL. I believe that they came up with numbers supported by their opinion. Florida as a state fared better than New York with their restrictions. Seriously. Switzerland also did better, Denmark as well with far less restrictions and stormtrooper vaccination requirements.
That's how most MAGAts like it.
Lots of MAGAts hope for male connection online. It's not sexual, it's regressive to prepubescence. The homosexuality of prepubescent males.
Common for many of the longtime JPP MAGA supporters.
Of course you do, lol.
Jethro Jr has arrived. Yawn.
Look.
Let me go through my thinking on this and where the opinions are based from. Just believing anything the CDC tells you is preposterous after COVID. Fauci, the CDC, and others eroded the trust people put into the institutions that were supposed to protect us. The reality is, folks do not trust for good reason.
Distrust in the CDC, NIH, and figures like Anthony Fauci is widespread and not baseless. Public confidence in the CDC dropped sharply during the pandemic (from ~80%+ early on to the mid-50s range by 2022 in multiple surveys), driven by shifting guidance, mixed messaging, overreach on mandates and school closures, suppression of debate, and later revelations from FOIA emails and documents.
Acting CDC director says Fauci "abused the place of power" during the COVID pandemic
The acting director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Wednesday accused Dr. Anthony Fauci of an abuse of power during the COVID-19 pandemic.
www.cbsnews.com
Inconsistent public messaging vs. private knowledge: Early statements downplayed masks, then flipped; lab-leak was labeled a conspiracy before evidence accumulated; social distancing rules (e.g., six feet) were later admitted to lack strong scientific foundation. Fauciโs emails and the recently discussed diary entries (released via Senate processes) show private acknowledgments of uncertainty or alternative views that differed from confident public framing. Critics, including current acting CDC leadership, have called this an abuse of authority that chilled scientific dissent.
Gain-of-function and origins opacity: NIH/NIAID funding of research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, combined with initial denials and slow transparency, fueled suspicion. Congressional hearings documented misleading statements on this.
Policy overreach and incentives: Emergency Use Authorizations, liability protections, massive public funding, and coordination with media/tech platforms created incentives that rewarded a single narrative. Mandate enforcement, job losses, and school disruptions without proportional risk-benefit analysis for low-risk groups damaged credibility further.
CDC blocks publication of report showing COVID vaccine efficacy
Data and study concerns: Observational studies (the main real-world evidence after the initial trials) are vulnerable to healthy-vaccinee bias, testing differences, and confounding. Some CDC/MMWR reports faced internal or external methodological criticism. Recent episodesโsuch as leadership delaying or blocking a vaccine-effectiveness analysisโillustrate that political or institutional priorities can still influence what gets published, regardless of administration.
These problems are real. Institutions are run by people with careers, funding streams, and political pressures. โResult-firstโ research happens in every field when incentives align that way; COVID amplified it because the stakes and money were enormous.
So you were just hoping then. Got it.
I didn't give you opinions, Son. I linked you to numbers. You know, facts.Look.
Let me go through my thinking on this and where the opinions are based from. Just believing anything the CDC tells you is preposterous after COVID. Fauci, the CDC, and others eroded the trust people put into the institutions that were supposed to protect us. The reality is, folks do not trust for good reason.
Distrust in the CDC, NIH, and figures like Anthony Fauci is widespread and not baseless. Public confidence in the CDC dropped sharply during the pandemic (from ~80%+ early on to the mid-50s range by 2022 in multiple surveys), driven by shifting guidance, mixed messaging, overreach on mandates and school closures, suppression of debate, and later revelations from FOIA emails and documents.
Acting CDC director says Fauci "abused the place of power" during the COVID pandemic
The acting director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Wednesday accused Dr. Anthony Fauci of an abuse of power during the COVID-19 pandemic.
Inconsistent public messaging vs. private knowledge: Early statements downplayed masks, then flipped; lab-leak was labeled a conspiracy before evidence accumulated; social distancing rules (e.g., six feet) were later admitted to lack strong scientific foundation. Fauciโs emails and the recently discussed diary entries (released via Senate processes) show private acknowledgments of uncertainty or alternative views that differed from confident public framing. Critics, including current acting CDC leadership, have called this an abuse of authority that chilled scientific dissent.
Gain-of-function and origins opacity: NIH/NIAID funding of research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, combined with initial denials and slow transparency, fueled suspicion. Congressional hearings documented misleading statements on this.
Policy overreach and incentives: Emergency Use Authorizations, liability protections, massive public funding, and coordination with media/tech platforms created incentives that rewarded a single narrative. Mandate enforcement, job losses, and school disruptions without proportional risk-benefit analysis for low-risk groups damaged credibility further.
CDC blocks publication of report showing COVID vaccine efficacy
www.cidrap.umn.edu
Data and study concerns: Observational studies (the main real-world evidence after the initial trials) are vulnerable to healthy-vaccinee bias, testing differences, and confounding. Some CDC/MMWR reports faced internal or external methodological criticism. Recent episodesโsuch as leadership delaying or blocking a vaccine-effectiveness analysisโillustrate that political or institutional priorities can still influence what gets published, regardless of administration.
These problems are real. Institutions are run by people with careers, funding streams, and political pressures. โResult-firstโ research happens in every field when incentives align that way; COVID amplified it because the stakes and money were enormous.
Or maybe you don't?
No. I can see your butt buddy Dutch is waving at you for a reach around. You love birds have at it.
And I linked you stories with facts that are the foundation of a different opinion.
You give me an opinion based on what you want to believe from a source that has lost trust among the populace for good reason. You believe it, because it tells you what you want to hear, that you are somehow "special"...
This is from a guy (me) who literally got the vaccine before anyone else because I was part of the time shortened studies before the election. I got the vaccine in October... I also got second shots... and more blood tests to see if it boosted the right responses...
Is it normal for a vaccine maker to demand and get an exemption that keeps people injured by their product (or their surviving family members) from suing them?
It is when the vaccine is going to be released before the normal 3 year study periods. They knew they could not ensure the safety of people taking it, because they had no longer term testing. The entire populace became the long term test.
Gee, I'm certain they were only doing what was best for us. /s