𝗧𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲'𝘀 𝗻𝗼 𝗼𝗳𝗳 𝘀𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗰𝗵 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗠𝗔𝗚𝗔 𝗕𝗦 𝗺𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲...

[Truth Detector]

This retired police detective will tell you that there is no way to know as no government body, state if federal, aggregates murder stats based on that data. So ANYONE reporting a number to you is lying.

That stated having worked in a densely populated city with very many Hispanics and a good number of undocumented we found that most dud their best to stay out of the light, to remain unnoticed. In fact their great non-wanting to be noticed made them more apt to be victims than criminals, as criminals knew they’d be reluctant to report crimes against them to the police.

I’m not saying there were no crimes committed by the undocumented. I’m saying there weren’t a lot of them, certainly not more than the percentage of the documented or citizens who commit crimes.

The point being made (.) ========> brainless you.

 

[Diogenes]

There’s no off switch for Hana’s hugging morons on the left.

Who's Hana?

 

[Truth Detector]

Who's Hana?

Hamas. Spell check changed it and I didn’t catch it.

 

[Diogenes]

Hamas. Spell check changed it and I didn’t catch it.

I supposed that might be the case. You gotta fact-check spellcheck because a name like Hana won't alert a mismatch. Happens to me, too.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Those useless multi-billion dollar fences that trump started but never finished were not there until trump blew the issue so far out of proportion his moron MAGA cult zombies can think of nothing else which distracts them from his criminal activity.

Actually, he's finishing them now. The MSM just hasn't been reporting on it.

Smart Wall Map

U.S. Customs and Border Protection provides information on border security, trade, travel, customs regulations, trusted traveler programs and enforcement news to the public.

www.cbp.gov

U.S. Nears Completion of Border Wall by Late 2027

The United States is on track to finish the primary segment of the southern border wall by the end of 2027, marking the culmination of the project launched under President Trump. The barrier will stretch from SanDiego to the Gulf of Mexico, with select gaps left in remote or protected areas...

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The MSM isn't about to give credit to Trump for actually doing something.

You haven't won shit.

Awww... the butthurt on your part is palpable.

Yes, I did.

No, you didn't. Your answer was an evasion changing the subject.

Stop lying.

You really should.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

There is no official national total from federal records of how many US citizens have been murdered by illegal immigrants (undocumented noncitizens) inside the US.

It's more than one (1).

Most crime statistics systems (FBI Uniform Crime Reporting/NIBRS, state systems, etc.) do not systematically record the immigration status of offenders or produce national aggregates that isolate US-citizen victims of homicides by illegal immigrants.

Better data doesn't change a thing here.

Media reports do not provide a verified national total either.

The MSM doesn't provide much verification on anything these days.

 

[Diogenes]

It's more than one (1).

Mighty hard to prove though, ain't it?

Better data doesn't change a thing here.

It does when lefties claim there's no proof and there isn't.

The MSM doesn't provide much verification on anything these days.

Sure they do, when they have a reason to.

 

[Nomad]

Actually, he's finishing them now. The MSM just hasn't been reporting on it.

The MSM isn't about to give credit to Trump for actually doing something.

Or so trump says...

Believing a word that comes out of that grifter con artist and his crime family after being lied to by them so many times is like ...

Awww... the butthurt on your part is palpable.

The buttstank on your part is puke inducing.

No, you didn't. Your answer was an evasion changing the subject.

Of course I did but you're such a chickenshit you'll never acknowledge it.

You really should.

You really should grow a pair.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

The point being made (.) ========> brainless you.

Chucking an over the shoulder insult isn;t an answer to anything. It’s evidence of a weak mind with no answer to what was stated other than an invective one.

Not impressed. Neither is any other intelligent person reading along.

Try to be better.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

The social media post referred to in the post below, is 100% pure bullshit....

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Even the mugshot photos are phony. They are Mexicans who were arrested, convicted and in prison in Mexico.

Why do trumpers have to CONSTANTLY LIE ABOUT EVERYTHING???

Because the truth will lose them votes.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Okay. How many US citizens did illegals within the US murder? I know the number isn't zero (0). So, whatever the actual number is, it is 100% more than should have died at the hands of foreigners who shouldn't even be in the US to begin with.

Data is your friend. Shake hands with it.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Chucking an over the shoulder insult isn;t an answer to anything. It’s evidence of a weak mind with no answer to what was stated other than an invective one.

Not impressed. Neither is any other intelligent person reading along.

Try to be better.

Hi, I see you're new here. Just wanted to let you know that you'll want to use smaller words with our MAGATy friends. Words like "invective" frighten and enrage them. lol

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Data is your friend. Shake hands with it.

In other words, I was exactly correct. The number is bigger than zero. The 13,000 figure is irrelevant. Whether the number is 13, 130, 1300, or 13,000, that's 100% too many. We should be striving to make the number of murders by illegal, criminal, aliens, ZERO and the best way to do that is deport every last one of them.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

In other words, I was exactly correct. The number is bigger than zero. The 13,000 figure is irrelevant. Whether the number is 13, 130, 1300, or 13,000, that's 100% too many. We should be striving to make the number of murders by illegal, criminal, aliens, ZERO and the best way to do that is deport every last one of them.

Sure, but you need to realize that equation you arecdyscussungchas other variables. So the question actually becomes: bring it to zero at “X” cost.

This time around it’s dead school teachers and nurses, militarized law enforcers 9n street clothes wearing masks in unmarked cars prowling our streets, acting like thugs, grabbing people who look Hispanic, acting without proper court documents. Denying people of due process. Far too many of them turning out to be citizens.

That’s not the country I was born into. That’s not law enforcing the way I was taught it.

 

[Sailor]

Sure, but you need to realize that equation you arecdyscussungchas other variables. So the question actually becomes: bring it to zero at “X” cost.

This time around it’s dead school teachers and nurses, militarized law enforcers 9n street clothes wearing masks in unmarked cars prowling our streets, acting like thugs, grabbing people who look Hispanic, acting without proper court documents. Denying people of due process. Far too many of them turning out to be citizens.

That’s not the country I was born into. That’s not law enforcing the way I was taught it.

Hmm. What kind of LEO were you?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Sure, but you need to realize that equation you arecdyscussungchas other variables. So the question actually becomes: bring it to zero at “X” cost.

This time around it’s dead school teachers and nurses, militarized law enforcers 9n street clothes wearing masks in unmarked cars prowling our streets, acting like thugs, grabbing people who look Hispanic, acting without proper court documents. Denying people of due process. Far too many of them turning out to be citizens.

That’s not the country I was born into. That’s not law enforcing the way I was taught it.

You are wrong here. I'd start with this quote:

The problem didn't start with millions of illegals in the US. It started with various administrations not willing to stop illegal aliens from entering and staying.

 

[AProudLefty]

Why not?

Because I kept clicking on it, thinking there's new posts.

Just curious. Your style.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

You are wrong here. I'd start with this quote:

The problem didn't start with millions of illegals in the US. It started with various administrations not willing to stop illegal aliens from entering and staying.

Anyone who wants to could have stopped it in weeks. They come for the money, and that’s jobs. Arrest the people illegally hiring them. The hiring stops. They stop coming because the jobs don’t exist anymore. The now unemployed ones already here self-deport becayse the paychecks have stopped.

But we all benefit from their presence. Cheaper restaurant meals, cheaper produce, cheaper poultry, cheaper lawn care and lower HOA fees. Cheaper hotel rooms. There employersxall make more because they pay them less.

The hypocrisy is off the chart. We talk it one way and walk it another. It’s a sham. If yiu want the cheaper services make it legal. If you don’t arrest the actual violators pulling these people across our borders with their jobs. You can’t have it both ways.

 

[AProudLefty]

Hamas. Spell check changed it and I didn’t catch it.

Think he shits her pants reading Finnegan's Wake a few times?

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

In other words, I was exactly correct. The number is bigger than zero. The 13,000 figure is irrelevant. Whether the number is 13, 130, 1300, or 13,000, that's 100% too many. We should be striving to make the number of murders by illegal, criminal, aliens, ZERO and the best way to do that is deport every last one of them.

When you falsely claim that 13,000 ppl have been killed by "illegals," it is not irrelevant. You MAGATs are far more focused on that non-problem than you are on the murder rate in general. Why is that? Oh yes, that's right -- because guns. We must not talk about the instruments used in the vast majority of murders in the U.S., right?