Never thought there were but your gal Sarah Palin did, echoed it, and a lot of you preMAGA’s swallowed it
What does Medicare for all actually mean?
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Regularly scheduled golf junkets to Trump golf resorts, or did you think Donnie gave his entourage discount rates for lodging and food
Taichiliberal
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Why waste time debating opinion when a FACT Based document clarifies an issue better than anything?
That you don't have the intellectual honesty or maturity to read and discuss content is a typical maga troll response.
Now repeat your BS ad nausea. The ibjective, rational and intelligent reader sees you folly.
Bullshit. You seem to be quite full of it.
All presidents play golf, you brainless halfwit. No one will beat the number of Obamas golf junkets.
As for discounts, I am doubtful that they got anything free because that would be against Government regulations and considered bribes or gifts.
I didn't see any FACT based documents. In fact, most of your drivel is either OPINION or just outright bullshit. Dunce.
Projection. You project a lot while crying, lying and flailing snowflake.
Cry louder brainless dipshit.
Okay, because the low IQ dumbasses on the left cannot answer the thread question, I will do it.
Medicare for all is nothing more than a very costly, mediocre, Universal Government mismanaged healthcare. They are using the term Medicare-for-all as a cover for what they could NEVER get passed when they controlled the White House, the House and the Senate.
That brings us to their backup.....Obamacare. A poorly written bill that even Speaker Pelosi declared she didn't know what was in the bill until they passed it. I want you leftist halfwits to consider how stupid that statement is. They passed a bill that even they did not know what was in it.
Obamacare is a lesson in the Universal government-controlled healthcare argument. It was passed based on outright lies and unkept promises. Today, the same people that claimed it would lower costs, it doesn't, that you could keep your doctor, you didn't and that this would be the blueprint of healthier citizens, it isn't.
There isn't an argument or a fact on the planet that can defend the failure of Government control of anything. The notion that Government can lower, and improve, the cost of healthcare is pure lie-filled fantasy as evidenced by every other nation that has implemented it.
Medicare for all is nothing more than a very costly, mediocre, Universal Government mismanaged healthcare. They are using the term Medicare-for-all as a cover for what they could NEVER get passed when they controlled the White House, the House and the Senate.
That brings us to their backup.....Obamacare. A poorly written bill that even Speaker Pelosi declared she didn't know what was in the bill until they passed it. I want you leftist halfwits to consider how stupid that statement is. They passed a bill that even they did not know what was in it.
Obamacare is a lesson in the Universal government-controlled healthcare argument. It was passed based on outright lies and unkept promises. Today, the same people that claimed it would lower costs, it doesn't, that you could keep your doctor, you didn't and that this would be the blueprint of healthier citizens, it isn't.
There isn't an argument or a fact on the planet that can defend the failure of Government control of anything. The notion that Government can lower, and improve, the cost of healthcare is pure lie-filled fantasy as evidenced by every other nation that has implemented it.
The appeal is obvious: one huge pool spreads risk better, cuts administrative duplication, and gives enormous bargaining power. I can absolutely see short-term savings.
My concern is what comes next. This doesn’t just create a large pool—it creates a monopoly buyer for healthcare. And monopolies don’t suddenly become harmless because the government runs them.
Pooling risk is a real benefit. Eliminating meaningful competition is a very different proposition.
My concern is what comes next. This doesn’t just create a large pool—it creates a monopoly buyer for healthcare. And monopolies don’t suddenly become harmless because the government runs them.
Pooling risk is a real benefit. Eliminating meaningful competition is a very different proposition.
Yakuda
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Pooling risk does have benefits but it also increases health care costs. If I exercise and eat right and Im in a pool with a couch potato the impacts in greater on me that the couch potato. The lack of competition has only one effect.
You’re making a fair point, but you’re already pooled with the couch potato. Employer insurance does exactly that — it just does it in a much smaller pool.
The stronger criticism of Medicare for All is that it pushes that pooling to the entire country while further weakening the connection between personal choices and personal costs.
Yakuda
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I know that and doing ii with 300 million people will only make it worse
It would an unmitigated disaster
I think calling Medicare for All an “unmitigated disaster” is a little myopic. We just blew past $40 trillion in federal debt. Healthcare costs are already absurd, entitlement obligations are enormous, and people are struggling with the basic cost of living.
The disaster isn’t some hypothetical thing waiting for us down the road. We’re already in one.
Yakuda
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Maybe but its accurate.
I agree we are in one and this medicare for all would be the final nail in the coffin but thats the plan of the left
the ideological war is lost at this point. markets are blamed, government solutions never are
NEXT
Taichiliberal
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And of course you can copy & paste or quote a paragraph or name a page from the link and then explain to the reading audience why you think it's wrong? If you can't or won't, then you're just blowing maga troll smoke, and Post #8 stands valid.I didn't see any FACT based documents. In fact, most of your drivel is either OPINION or just outright bullshit. Dunce.
Projection. You project a lot while crying, lying and flailing snowflake.
Cry louder brainless dipshit.
Taichiliberal
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Double down of revisionism, opinion, supposition & conjecture on TD's part. And if one wants a more objective review:
Fact check US: Is Obamacare ‘dysfunctional and too expensive’, as Trump claims?
The US president has relentlessly attacked the ACA since taking office. While more costly than hoped, the law has cut the number of Americans without insurance in half, more than meeting its goals.
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More brainless word salad. You’re quite full of it.Double down of revisionism, opinion, supposition & conjecture on TD's part. And if one wants a more objective review:
Fact check US: Is Obamacare ‘dysfunctional and too expensive’, as Trump claims?
The US president has relentlessly attacked the ACA since taking office. While more costly than hoped, the law has cut the number of Americans without insurance in half, more than meeting its goals.
Taichiliberal
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the chronology of the posts and this latest schoolyard retort by TD shows (once again) that he's just another maga troll of limited mental capacity. He's done and I'm done wasting time on him. I'll check in on him sometime next month.