WinterBorn
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Yes, it is so.
Judge strikes down Texas ban on drag shows, tells people offended by them ‘just don’t go’
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Yes, it is so.
Citation required.
WinterBorn
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Ok. It may take you a bit of time, but I have faith in you.
No proof, no truth.
You made the claim.
Back it up, or pack it up.
Because I consider your reasoning abilities underdeveloped, please note that I am not saying you are wrong. I am asking you to substantiate a statement you made.
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WinterBorn
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So my post is not wrong, you just want to be a troll. Got it.
I didn't say it was, did I?
I asked you to back it up.
Do it.
Or, post a laugh emoji and/or claim that you're bored.
WinterBorn
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Exactly what bothers you about beauty contests? They harm no one. They provide a means of earning scholarships and more. It seems like a harmless hobby to me.
He's talking about child beauty pageants.
WinterBorn
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I know. He specifically mentioned "kid beauty contests" in the post I was quoting.
But my questio still stands, whether you talk about adult or child pageants.
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Child beauty pageants are being discussed ITT.
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I answered your question - which was a lie.
The Texas law restricts Drag shows to people over 18 - it never was a "ban". No more that requiring people to be 21 is prohibition.
At least that's consistent.
I agree that 21 is an absurd age. One is a legal adult at 18 - which should be the age for booze, guns, and drag shows.
A great deal. But among consenting adults, do what thou wilst.
Why does the left insist on involving children?
Again, all the Texas is set a common sense limit to being 18 or older.
That a lefty judge and the democrat party have a meltdown about this law says a great deal about the grooming agenda of the left.
Why do children need to be taken to drag shows? I asked before, do you also demand children be allowed in bars? What about strip clubs?
Nobody is insisting anyone involve children.
Citation?
That's exactly what you and the lefty judge are doing.
All the law did was restrict Drag Show attendance to adults. You're melting down because children are excluded.
The age to attend a drag show should be the same as the age to buy a firearm.
WinterBorn
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I have no idea. I have never claimed that children should be taken to drag shows.
Yes — they were age-based restrictions. Texas Senate Bill 12 (2023) did not ban “sexually oriented performances” outright. It restricted them when minors (under 18) were present or when they occurred on public property in a way that children could reasonably be expected to see them.
The law was widely described as a “drag ban” because lawmakers and Gov. Greg Abbott promoted it that way, but the statute itself never used the word “drag.” It used the broader term “sexually oriented performance.”
What the law actually restricted
- Commercial venues: A person who controls the premises of a commercial enterprise could not allow a sexually oriented performance if anyone under 18 was present. Penalty: civil fine of up to $10,000 per violation.
- Performers: Engaging in such a performance in the presence of anyone under 18, or on public property at a time/place/manner that could reasonably be expected to be viewed by a child, was a Class A misdemeanor (up to 1 year in jail and/or a $4,000 fine). Compensation was irrelevant.
- Local governments: Cities and counties were barred from authorizing these performances on public property or in the presence of minors. They could otherwise regulate them for public health, safety, or welfare.
How the law defined the restricted performances
A “sexually oriented performance” was a visual performance that:
- Featured a performer who was nude (entirely unclothed, or clothing leaving uncovered any portion of the breasts below the areola or any portion of the genitals or buttocks), or a performer who engaged in “sexual conduct,” and
- Appealed to the “prurient interest in sex.”
“Sexual conduct” included:
- Exhibition or representation (actual or simulated) of sexual acts
- Exhibition of genitals in a lewd state
- Exhibition of devices marketed primarily for sexual stimulation
- Actual or simulated contact with buttocks, breasts, or genitals
- Exhibition of sexual gesticulations using accessories or prosthetics that exaggerate male or female sexual characteristics
The last category was the provision most commonly cited in connection with certain drag performances that use padding or exaggerated features.
Why the judge struck it down
U.S. District Judge David Hittner (for the second time) found the law unconstitutionally overbroad and vague under the First Amendment. He noted that its definitions could theoretically reach cheerleading, sports in tight clothing, karaoke, comic-con costumes, ballet, Dolly Parton-style performances (big hair, low-cut dresses), Elvis-style hip movements, or Miley Cyrus twerking if a prosecutor argued they appealed to a “prurient interest.”
The law had no parental-consent exception. Hittner’s August 2026 ruling permanently enjoined Attorney General Ken Paxton from enforcing it. The case had previously gone to the Fifth Circuit, which allowed the law to take effect temporarily before sending it back.
Texas Drag Ban Overbroad and Struck Down | Shared Grok Conversation
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WinterBorn
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I have been to quite a few drag shows (in my misbegotten youth). And I never saw anything obscene. No stripping or super revealing attire.
WinterBorn
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I will agree with you about the age limits. But for different reasons.
The minimum age of the draft is 18 years old. If a man is 18 years old, he can be drafted, handed an automatic weapon, and dropped into a combat zone. But he can't have a beer before he goes? Ridiculous.