Oklahoma Bible mandate challenged in Court

[Into the Night]

Given how often you rely on appeal to authority in lieu of an actual point I'm curious how you arrive at that conclusion.

His own wacky beliefs.

 

[Into the Night]

Public schools must be neutral on the issue of religion. Neither teaching nor prohibiting the Bible in public schools.

No such law in Oklahoma.

Of course the real answer is to do away with public schools.

...and your reasoning...?

 

[Into the Night]

Obviously you never learned anything in school.

Mantra 1c. Lame, Hugo.

 

[Into the Night]

You're just as bad or worse. Prohibiting competing religious expression violates the 1st amendment.

The 1st amendment does not apply here.

Public schools should be neutral ground where children are free to express any religious idea they please.

No such law in Oklahoma.

But then, public schools should not exist - for this very reason.

You still have not provided your reasoning.

It's the flip side of the coin you are complaining about.

He doesn't know what he's complaining about.

 

[Into the Night]

With the SCOTUS decision of parent opting children out of controversial subjects -

SCOTUS has no authority here.

I can imagine that many parents will opt their children out of religious instruction.

Doubtful. Parents want their children to grow up in their religion.

 

[Into the Night]

Yeah, let's talk about history and science without ever once mentioning any historians or scientists, lol.

Okay. You start. What do you want to talk about?

The plaintiffs in the case opposing the Oklahoma Bible mandate and include leaders from the Baptist, Presbyterian, Catholic, and United Church of Christ churches. Atheists by themselves have never won anything transformative, there's not enough of them. So it doesn't aid the cause to be disparaging and demeaning to Christians

Atheists wouldn't care.

 

[Into the Night]

It was the Baptists who insisted on separation of Church and State in the revolutionary War era. It wasn't the secularists, atheists, or liberals insisting on it.

Religious freedom is not even listed as one of the reasons to separate from Britain in the Declaration of Independence, and the continental army was not fighting for religious freedom.

Oklahoma wasn't a colony or original State during the revolutionary war, Cyborg.

 

[Into the Night]

We don’t need your Christianity in our schools.

Cyborg isn't a Christian. He doesn't believe in the Bible either.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Sharia law, American style. Coming to a school near you.

 

[murph63]

Cyborg isn't a Christian. He doesn't believe in the Bible either.

Sure, sure.

 

[Into the Night]

Me too. I still have the Lutheran Bible my parents gave me when I turned 11. I also have my uncle's JKV Bible inscribed to him by his Sunday School teacher in 1929.

The Bible has not only beautiful poetry, but wisdom as well. I can follow the wisdom and teachings without being a Christian or a Jew.

To follow the teachings of the Bible is to believe in Christianity, since the Bible is a witness of Jesus Christ.

 

[Into the Night]

Agreed 100%. Humanity would be best served by learning from all ancient wisdom. Those who push a "holier than thou" attitude, be it ISIS or the MAGAts, are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

MAGAts is not a word, Sybil.

 

[Into the Night]

So you Support Trump Fascism! One party rule.

Trump is not a socialist.

 

[Into the Night]

Invading American cities is Fascism

Redefinition fallacy. Fascism is government manipulation of markets. It is a form of socialism. It has nothing to do with invasions of anything.

 

[Into the Night]

Not by sixth graders.

Yes, Cyborg. By sixth graders. The earlier they learn English, the better.

The kind of elaborate and antiquated Elizabethean English used by Shakespeare and the KJV should be studied in college.

Why?

If Oklahoma Bible thumpers actually cared about sixth graders getting anything meaningful out of the Bible,

What is an 'Oklahoma Bible Thumper'?

they would have used taxpayer money to purchase widely available translations in contemporary English, like the ubiquitous and hugely popular NIV translation.

The KJV is in English.

 

[Into the Night]

I believe this might be what normal people call the "Justice System". I'm sure in your world people run to the courts when everything is going well.



Welcome to America. Until recently we had a functioning judiciary.



Yeah: your guy is breaking all the laws.

What guy and what laws?

 

[Into the Night]

^^^ This is written by a guy who cheered when Trump took his election 2020 lawsuits to court 60 times.

There was no election in 2020, Cyborg.

 

[Into the Night]

You cheered wildly as your Messiah brought forward, and then lost case after case after case after case in his election 2020 lawsuits.

There was no election in 2020, Cyborg.

 

[Melchizedek=Tecumseh]

Trump is not a socialist.

I know! He is a Fascist

 

[Melchizedek=Tecumseh]

Redefinition fallacy. Fascism is government manipulation of markets. It is a form of socialism. It has nothing to do with invasions of anything.

Fascism, is one person government ,with endless moron followers Sieg Heil,shithead