A little education for our Maga/Alt-Right friends.

Taichiliberal said:
Either you're stupid or a poor liar, as NOTHING in your links debunks the facts if the OP video. Be specific and stop the BS.
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Do you really need me to go through that 6 minutes of generalized and often wrong tripe in the video in the OP to show you Conner is an idiot and you are as well for not actually doing your homework?
 
Yakuda said:
Its right on topic. Its not that leftists are whiny bitches that bothers me its that you actually try to deny it. Its not about victory because we know even when you dickheads are proven wrong you just keep going. You arent serious and you definitely dont bother to think on your own.
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more dodgy BS from yet another intellectually impotent and dishonest maga troll. Let us know when you can address the FACTS, gumby.
 
I am not an expert on this subject but I think the racism story is over sold. The truth is that blacks and PR's generally had lower paying factory jobs and did not have the financial ability to live in the suburbs, nor did they have any desire as they liked the communal life of the cities.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I am not an expert on this subject but I think the racism story is over sold. The truth is that blacks and PR's generally had lower paying factory jobs and did not have the financial ability to live in the suburbs, nor did they have any desire as they liked the communal life of the cities.
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Levittown is a perfect example, black families were barred from buying there even if they could afford it. And there were private racial covenants in many areas restricting black buyers as well as government lenders incorporating racial restrictions.

I suppose one could try and justify all that by saying 'they don't want to live here anyway' but that doesn't really fly.
 
cawacko said:
Levittown is a perfect example, black families were barred from buying there even if they could afford it. And there were private racial covenants in many areas restricting black buyers as well as government lenders incorporating racial restrictions.

I suppose one could try and justify all that by saying 'they don't want to live here anyway' but that doesn't really fly.
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The red lining did happen, the question is how much did it matter.
 
I am not sure this is true, but I have been told that blacks and hispanics still would rather live in the cities, welfare housing programs have resorted to forcing them into the suburbs for ideological reasons, a sore point with many of the victims who feel that their lives have been degraded by power.
 
Taichiliberal said:
🙄 So you can't logically or factually disprove the points of the video. Got it. Now run-a-long or the teacher will be mad for you being late for class and send you to the principle"s office.
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I read the title only before commenting. Therefore I can't talk about it. As stated not interested in an "Education" from some bullshit posted by a moron.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The red lining did happen, the question is how much did it matter.
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It was more than just redlining. That's trying to downplay what happened. Families were shut out of neighborhoods that later saw huge appreciation, and their kids were often shut out of better schools. Those effects are real.

At the same time I think it's too facile an answer to say that is the main cause of the problems today.
 
cawacko said:
It was more than just redlining. That's trying to downplay what happened. Families were shut out of neighborhoods that later saw huge appreciation, and their kids were often shut out of better schools. Those effects are real.

At the same time I think it's too facile an answer to say that is the main cause of the problems today.
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The lack of interest in education in black culture goes back a long way....Cosby spent decades talking about this.....plus during the red lining days city schools tended to be reasonably good......that is all gone now but that is another story.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The lack of interest in education in black culture goes back a long way....Cosby spent decades talking about this.....plus during the red lining days city schools tended to be reasonably good......that is all gone now but that is another story.
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If we're talking black people specifically it's interesting to hear the arguments on the more fringes. One side will say the condition of many black people today is all a result of history to the point that decisions made in the present almost don't matter, and speak in a way that seems to imply black people have no agency.

The flip side is what you're arguing. That history, and the discrimination inherent in it, really don't matter. That black people were too poor and didn't want to live in nice neighborhoods anyway, they didn't care about education etc. That gets close to a pretty ugly argument.

Reality is somewhere in the middle. Past discrimination absolutely has played a role in what we see today. At the same time, so have many other things that can't just be blamed on racism.
 
cawacko said:
If we're talking black people specifically it's interesting to hear the arguments on the more fringes. One side will say the condition of many black people today is all a result of history to the point that decisions made in the present almost don't matter, and speak in a way that seems to imply black people have no agency.

The flip side is what you're arguing. That history, and the discrimination inherent in it, really don't matter. That black people were too poor and didn't want to live in nice neighborhoods anyway, they didn't care about education etc. That gets close to a pretty ugly argument.

Reality is somewhere in the middle. Past discrimination absolutely has played a role in what we see today. At the same time, so have many other things that can't just be blamed on racism.
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All I said is that Blacks wanted to live in the cities, if the suburb schools were better (and the probably generally were) that was not going to change the calculous.
 
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