Education; better in 1978, or now?
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T. A. Gardner
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No, pubic education has become just that. It has gone downhill precipitously and not just because of the Dept. of Education. It has also gone downhill because it has taken a hard turn to the Left. Indoctrination has become more important than knowledge and reason.
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Now, the Left will tell you this is just another Rightwing conspiracy and that the Right wants nothing more than to censor what is taught in schools. But when you look at the textbooks, the curricula, the teachers and students, and the results, it is obvious that education took that hard turn to the Left. For example, "Social Justice" high schools now are pretty common across the US, particularly in blue states.
The Greater Lawndale High School for Social Justice, nicknamed SOJO, is the burning flame of passion generated during the hunger strike of 2001. We symbolize the collective effort of community grassroots organizing and protest.
We teach our students this history and expose them to the tenets of social justice while preparing them for academic growth and excellence.
socialjusticehighschool.org
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I have my doubts that putting a famed reporter in a classroom is the best way to expose politicization.
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Now, the Left will tell you this is just another Rightwing conspiracy and that the Right wants nothing more than to censor what is taught in schools. But when you look at the textbooks, the curricula, the teachers and students, and the results, it is obvious that education took that hard turn to the Left. For example, "Social Justice" high schools now are pretty common across the US, particularly in blue states.
The Greater Lawndale High School for Social Justice, nicknamed SOJO, is the burning flame of passion generated during the hunger strike of 2001. We symbolize the collective effort of community grassroots organizing and protest.
We teach our students this history and expose them to the tenets of social justice while preparing them for academic growth and excellence.
About – Social Justice High School
socialjusticehighschool.org
Didja vote, though?
serenity
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Neither/nor. Academia doesn't teach brains to navigate their own time alive daily here as equally created since conception into this species as 5th wave of ancestral lineages changing current population one ancestor at a time since inception of their relative ancestral lineage predates civilization repeating history 24/7.
Tbird19482
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Well just ask one that just got out of high school to tell you the time from a clock that has hands on it ,if they weren't taught it by their parents most of them can't , if it isn't digital their done.
Then a lot of them cant make change. If the cash register doesn't tell them what it is their done.
Simple things like this are not being taught in schools any more.
Then a lot of them cant make change. If the cash register doesn't tell them what it is their done.
Simple things like this are not being taught in schools any more.
serenity
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Looks like academia is as guilty as parents. neglecting to teach their offspring how genetic results exist in plain sight without any form of New World Order reality of social consensus among us as a species.
from kindergarten to master's degree in social engineering tomorrows beyond actual time only adapting in space by heartbeats daily here since factual date of birth nobody can tell their actual date of conception prior to born into a contextual reality cradle to grave..
Explain to us how a primary school teacher politically indoctrinates a kidNo, pubic education has become just that. It has gone downhill precipitously and not just because of the Dept. of Education. It has also gone downhill because it has taken a hard turn to the Left. Indoctrination has become more important than knowledge and reason.
Bill Ayers and the Subversion of Education
Barack Obama's longstanding ties to Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn have elicited a great deal of controversy and have weakened his campaign. Senator Obama attempted to distance himself from this dynamite duo -- as he has distanced himself from his &q...
Navigating Political Polarization in Education Today
Partners for Educational Leadership
Are Schools Really Politicized? | National Review
I have my doubts that putting a famed reporter in a classroom is the best way to expose politicization.
Now, the Left will tell you this is just another Rightwing conspiracy and that the Right wants nothing more than to censor what is taught in schools. But when you look at the textbooks, the curricula, the teachers and students, and the results, it is obvious that education took that hard turn to the Left. For example, "Social Justice" high schools now are pretty common across the US, particularly in blue states.
The Greater Lawndale High School for Social Justice, nicknamed SOJO, is the burning flame of passion generated during the hunger strike of 2001. We symbolize the collective effort of community grassroots organizing and protest.
We teach our students this history and expose them to the tenets of social justice while preparing them for academic growth and excellence.
About – Social Justice High School
"Us", Anchovies?
Sounds like another one of those “it ain’t like it used to be when I was a kid,” the same school of hard knocks and walked two miles to school everyday bullshit
Think so, Anchovies? Don't forget to vote, then.
O.K.
Quite a lot of "pubic" education is going on in public schools staffed by members of Democrat-supporting unions. FACT.
Tbird19482
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Never said I was any good in English, I admit I just got by,
If you were "educated" before 1979, what's your excuse?
And I was real bad at spelling in school.
Tbird19482
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Yes I did .
T. A. Gardner
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It's not like the Left is hiding any of this. They put it out there because in their arrogance, they believe no one can or will stop them and that they're on the correct side of justice in indoctrinating children into being radical Leftists.
How can a primary school teacher politically indoctrinate a kid?
A primary-school teacher can politically indoctrinate a child by treating contested political claims as settled moral or factual truths, selecting materials that lead students toward one conclusion, and shutting down or never presenting the other side. Young children (roughly ages 5–11) are especially susceptible because they still treat the teacher as an authority figure, have limited ability to evaluate sources, and lack the historical or logical tools to push back.
Common methods that appear in reporting and complaints
These are the patterns that keep showing up in parent reports, leaked materials, former-teacher accounts, and curriculum reviews:
- One-sided content presented as fact. History or social-studies lessons that frame Western institutions, specific historical figures, or national founding as primarily oppressive, without the counter-evidence or complexity. A former teacher described an elementary student rejecting Winston Churchill as “a racist who didn’t think women should have rights” after classroom instruction—language that sounded copied rather than reasoned.
- Materials that smuggle political slogans into “age-appropriate” activities. Coloring books, picture books, and worksheets that include terms such as “queer affirming,” “transgender affirming,” “restorative justice,” or specific activist organizations’ tenets. These have been documented in some U.S. elementary classrooms as Black History or social-emotional lessons.
- Normalization. Presenting a particular viewpoint (on race, gender, climate, policing, or patriotism) as the default, non-political “kind” or “inclusive” position. Teachers wearing political apparel or using classroom language that treats dissent as morally suspect reinforces this.
- Teacher-selected materials with little oversight. Surveys have found that the large majority of elementary teachers use or create their own materials rather than strictly following a district-adopted curriculum. Sites that sell lesson plans contain large numbers of “privilege walks,” pronoun lessons, and identity-lens activities.
- Emotional framing over evidence. Lessons that ask young children to identify as victims or oppressors based on immutable traits, or that treat certain family or national traditions as inherently harmful, rely on feeling rather than argument.
- Suppression of alternatives. Skipping or sanitizing topics (Thanksgiving, certain Founders, biological sex) that do not fit the preferred narrative, or treating questions as evidence of “wrongthink.”
The same toolkit works in the opposite direction: patriotic education that omits slavery’s scale or complexity, or that treats national symbols as beyond criticism, can also function as indoctrination when it closes off inquiry. Authoritarian systems (Nazi Germany, Taliban Afghanistan, Ba’athist Syria, contemporary Russia) simply make the methods more explicit—mandatory political classes, rewritten textbooks, rituals, and punishment for deviation.
What distinguishes this from ordinary teaching
Education presents evidence, competing interpretations, and the tools to evaluate them. Indoctrination presents a conclusion first and treats contrary evidence as illegitimate or unmentionable. In primary school the line is easier to cross because the cognitive load is kept low (coloring, simple worksheets, teacher-led stories) and because young children rarely have the vocabulary or independence to notice the missing pieces.
Most teachers are not running a coordinated campaign. The effect often comes from education-school training that emphasizes “critical pedagogy,” from commercially available lesson plans, from district social-emotional or equity frameworks, and from the social environment of the school. Parents who want to see it usually look at homework language, assigned books, classroom posters, and whether the child starts repeating adult political slogans they did not hear at home.