"Experts" Wrong Again: 162,000 Jobs Added in August

The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) employment report is widely considered more accurate and comprehensive than the ADP payroll report. [1]


As discussed by a consensus of users on Reddit, “The BLS report is considered more accurate due to its comprehensive data gathering by state labor departments, which is more reliable than data from a single payroll company.”


Why BLS is More Accurate
    • Official Data: The BLS surveys roughly 122,000 businesses and government agencies to build its nonfarm payrolls report.
    • Government Inclusion: The BLS counts federal, state, and local government jobs, while ADP only tracks the private sector.
    • Thorough Revisions: BLS numbers anchor Federal Reserve policy because they undergo deep, reliable benchmarking against the Quarterly Census of Employment and Wages (QCE
 
Not bad.



August jobs report delivers unexpectedly strong news for US economy​


The U.S. economy added a surprising 162,000 jobs in August, the Labor Department estimated Sept. 4, even as economists said a "low-hire, low-fire" dynamic made it difficult for unemployed Americans to find work.

The 162,000 estimate for August far surpassed forecasters’ expectations and marked a rebound after U.S. employers added a now-revised 21,000 jobs in July. The department previously estimated U.S. employers shed 23,000 jobs in July. Payroll gains for June were also revised higher, reflecting a stronger summer job market than previously thought.


~ Average hourly earnings for employees on private, nonfarm payrolls rose by 10 cents to $37.75 in August, the department said. They increased 3.1% over the year. The department’s next inflation report due out Sept. 11 will reveal whether paychecks kept up with inflation in August. They did not in July.





Can you trust these numbers from this administration?:dunno:
 
In the August 2026 jobs report released by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, prior estimates for June and July nonfarm payrolls were revised upward by a combined 55,000 jobs. [1]

Monthly Payroll Revisions
    • June 2026: The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for June was revised up by 11,000, from 20,000 to 31,000 per the Robert Half Research summary of the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics data.
    • July 2026: July was revised up by 44,000, from a loss of 23,000 to a gain of 21,000. -- [Robert Half Research].
Biden job reports were always revised down. :)
 
No, Trump fired people who were proven to inflate Biden-era jobs by over 1,000,000.

No.

Trump fired BLS Commissioner Erika McEntarfer (a 2024 Biden appointee) on August 1, 2025, after a weak July 2025 jobs report and a 258,000 downward revision to May–June 2025 payrolls. He accused her of rigging numbers and referenced earlier large revisions. That is not the same as firing “people who were proven to inflate Biden-era jobs by over 1,000,000.”


BLS payroll estimates start as a survey (CES) and get revised twice monthly, then annually via a benchmark against more complete unemployment-insurance/QCEW administrative data. Large downward revisions occurred:


  • Preliminary 2024 benchmark (year ending March 2024): ~818,000 fewer jobs; final revision ~589,000–598,000.
  • 2025 benchmark (year ending March 2025): preliminary ~911,000; final figures around 861,000.
  • Combined effects over 2024–2025 produced estimates of roughly 1 million or more fewer jobs than the initial monthly reports had shown.

Those revisions are real and unusually large by historical standards. They mean the initial Biden-era monthly prints overstated job growth. That is not the same as proof that specific officials deliberately inflated the numbers. Revisions of both signs have occurred under multiple administrations; the process is designed so no commissioner can simply cook the books. Former Trump-appointed BLS commissioner William Beach and economists across the spectrum said the “rigged” claim was unfounded.


The firing was of the commissioner (one Senate-confirmed official), not a group of “proven inflators.” Separate DOGE-era federal workforce reductions were a different policy. Later BLS reports, including the August 2026 numbers discussed in the forum thread, came after the change in leadership. The claim in the post treats routine (if large) statistical revision as proven fraud and treats one high-profile firing as a purge of people caught cooking the books. That overstates what the public record shows.
 
Wall st. is upset over not getting another interest cut, and both June and July jobs numbers have revised up.

It was Diaper Joe who over-claimed over a million non-existent jobs.
Got it, Biden’s numbers were all phony but Trump’s are 100% correct.

Let’s ask a question, which of the two has a documented reputation of being a habitual liar?

All that needs to be said about that
 
Were BLS job estimates more accurate when Biden was the POTUS?





No. Initial BLS monthly payroll estimates were not more accurate during Biden’s presidency (2021–2025). Large downward revisions—some of the biggest in decades outside recessions—showed that early reports overstated job growth more than typical historical averages.


How BLS estimates and revisions work​


The Current Employment Statistics (CES) survey produces the headline monthly nonfarm payroll number from a sample of businesses. Those first-release figures are revised twice in the following months as more responses arrive, then annually “benchmarked” to the far more complete Quarterly Census of Employment and Wages (QCEW) unemployment-insurance records. Average monthly revision size (first to third estimate) has long been around 50–60k jobs. Annual benchmark revisions have typically been a few tenths of a percent of total employment.


What happened under Biden​


  • The 2024 benchmark (covering the year ending March 2024) cut estimated job growth by 818k initially and 598k in the final figure—one of the larger revisions since 2009.
  • The next cycle (year ending March 2025, spanning late Biden and early second Trump term) produced an even bigger preliminary cut of ~900–911k, the largest since the Great Recession in percentage terms. Final 2025 calendar-year job growth was revised down sharply (to ~181k from an initial ~584k in some presentations).
  • Several individual months in 2023–2025 saw unusually large two-month downward revisions (e.g., May–June 2025 combined –258k, the biggest non-recession two-month revision in decades).

These overstatements reduced the headline job-creation totals attributed to the Biden years once the more complete data arrived.


Comparison and causes​


Revisions of similar or larger size have occurred before, including a ~514k downward benchmark for 2019 under the first Trump term and much larger ones around the 2008–09 recession and the 2020 COVID shock. There is no consistent partisan pattern across administrations; revisions have gone both ways under both parties. Experts across the spectrum attribute the recent large misses to practical measurement problems that intensified after 2020: falling survey response rates, rapid business births and deaths, shifting seasonal hiring patterns, and large immigration-driven labor-force changes that the models struggled to capture in real time. Those conditions overlapped Biden’s term more than the quieter 2014–2019 period.


By mid-to-late 2026 the monthly revision sizes had moved back closer to long-run averages, suggesting the extreme volatility was tied more to the post-pandemic transition than to any single administration’s statistical practices. BLS data remain the standard source; the revisions themselves are the correction mechanism, not evidence of fabrication.



 
Every job report is adjusted up or down due to more corporations providing data. Give it a break , it will take a month before it is adjusted.
 
No, Trump fired people who were proven to inflate Biden-era jobs by over 1,000,000.
If the jobs numbers were inflated by over a million, they would need to be dropped by a million for trump era numbers to be correct. When will trump be doing that?
 
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